Subject: Digest for the period 8/3/2007 - 8/4/2007
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 01:03:17 -0400

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  1. RE: GM additional levels and the purpose of the BJCP (Jon 
     Tobey) 
  2. RE: GM additional levels (Houseman, David L) 
  3. Experience points for higher GM levels (Calvin Perilloux) 
  4. Judging Fruit Beers (tombyrnes`at`verizon.net) 


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From: Jon Tobey  Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 01:04:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: RE: GM additional levels and the purpose of the BJCP 


Furthermore, if I'm never going to take the test again, can I trade in all my points for nifty prizes? 


Jon Tobey 
Ideastream 
425-373-6064
 
 "Battles are won by the remnants of armies." 



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From: Houseman, David L  Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 07:39:03 -0400
Subject: RE: GM additional levels 


Tom,

Yes, half of the experience points for additional Grand Master levels
must come from judging.   

David Houseman
GM III


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From: Calvin Perilloux  Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 06:41:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Experience points for higher GM levels 


Tom Schmidlin notes:

> Since GM explicitly states half of the 50 points must be from judging
> and there is no such statement in Additional Levels, this indicates
> to me that to gain additional GM levels judging points are NOT
> required.  Is this the correct interpretation?

Correct?  Based only the section you quoted, maybe.  
However, a bit below that in the Membership Guide 
(in the Proooomotions section) is this statement 
which clarifies the matter:

 "At least half of all experience points counted 
  toward a rank must be earned through judging 
  (either in a regular judging session or during 
  a BOS round)."

This seems to cover the requirement of an additional 50
judging points for each GM level.

Calvin Perilloux
Middletown, Maryland, USA


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From: tombyrnes`at`verizon.net  Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 15:54:07 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Judging Fruit Beers 


After judging category 20 in a local club contest recently, I guess I need to know the importance of the of the underlying style on the overall score. Is hitting that style benchmark more important than the fruit flavor and the harmony between fruit and beer. Thanks for your input. Tom Norfolk,VA


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