Subject: Digest for the period 4/23/2005 - 4/24/2005 Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 01:04:03 -0400 Table of contents ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Clarification on Christmas Beer rationale (Gordon Strong) 2. Steward's Points (MeadGuild`at`aol.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gordon Strong Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 08:21:00 -0400 Subject: Clarification on Christmas Beer rationale In the April 23 digest, Dave Houseman said: > First the rationale for having the Christmas or Holiday Beer as a > subcategory: This was in recognition that in many competitions people > enter > a beer with a long list of spices and other ingredients. These were > brewed > as holiday ales of some sort with an assortment of spices. When these > ingredients are listed individually judges tend to want to identify each > spice separately. This is often very difficult. So although the overall > beer may be very good, presenting a balance of flavors, the beer would be > marked down since individual elements could not be identified. Since > Christmas or Holiday beers are very popular with homebrewers a separate > sub-style was added for that beer. In this way, individual special > ingredients do not have to be listed or identified. This is all true, although it goes beyond that. In the old guidelines, a spice (herb/veg) beer could not have anything added other than spices. And it had to have a classic sub-style as a base. Christmas-type beers often have additional fermentables (molasses, honey, etc.) and often are not just a spiced version of a classic beer style. So the recognition was made as part of the Christmas beer subcategory that not only were a blend of spices desired, but that additional ingredients unallowable in the old guidelines were explicitly OK. Otherwise, Christmas-type beers were forced to be entered in the Specialty category. We removed the necessity of identifying a "classic sub-style" because too often brewers either didn't intend the beer to be just a fruit/spice/whatever version of an existing style, and that judges too often got hung up on the "it's a great fruit beer but it's not a good " cop-out. In any of these beers, it's the resulting blend that's the most important thing. By focusing on the individual elements, too often the forest was getting lost for the trees, so to speak. All that said, Belgian Christmas Beers were thought of as being Belgian first, and Christmas-type beers second. People judging Belgian Specialty need to have an appreciation of the range of commercial Belgian beers. So someone entering a Belgian Christmas-type beer would likely get a more accurate evaluation if they enter it as a Belgian Specialty rather than a Christmas-type beer. The comments in the guidelines reflect this advice. Gordon ********************************************************************** * JudgeNet - the beer judge digest * * Send plain text only, no HTML, MIME, encoded text or attachments * * Manage your subscription online: http://synchro.com/judge * * Send subscription requests & changes to judge-request`at`synchro.com * ********************************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MeadGuild`at`aol.com Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:51:00 EDT Subject: Steward's Points I will be a Steward at the NHC in Baltimore. There are five sessions and I will receive a half point regardless of the number of sessions stewarded. Since I will be taking the BJCP exam, this will be the first and last time I steward so what I propose will not affect me. It seems to me that it would be more motivational to grant 1/4 of a point for each session stewarded with a maximum of 2 points allowed. I'm retired so it means nothing to me to take off Thursday and Friday. But younger homebrewers might find the cumulative incentive a reason to take a day or two off work to steward. Also anyone interested in starting a BJCP exam study group in Baltimore, please contact me at _MeadGuild`at`aol.com_ (mailto:MeadGuild@aol.com) . Dick -- Richard D. Adams, CPA ********************************************************************** * JudgeNet - the beer judge digest * * Send plain text only, no HTML, MIME, encoded text or attachments * * Manage your subscription online: http://synchro.com/judge * * Send subscription requests & changes to judge-request`at`synchro.com * **********************************************************************