Subject: Digest for the period 2/15/2005 - 2/16/2005 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 01:02:13 -0500 Table of contents ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. 7th Annual Drunk Monk Challenge - March 11-12 - Judges needed!! (Formanek, Joe) 2. It can't happen here. (Jim Liddil) 3. Re: Digest for the period 2/14/2005 - 2/15/2005 (Thom Cannell) 4. BJCP CEP PDQ (Kris England) 5. Re: Beer vocabulary development (Bob Sheck) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Formanek, Joe Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 12:02:13 -0600 Subject: 7th Annual Drunk Monk Challenge - March 11-12 - Judges needed!! Fellow BJCP Judges, Spring is almost here - which means the 7th Annual UKG Drunk Monk Challenge is fast approaching - just a little over a month away!! The DMC will be held on Saturday, March 12th, at Walter Payton's Roundhouse - America's Brewery, in Aurora IL. It is an AHA sanctioned competition, a qualifying event for the MCAB (Master Championship of Amateur Brewing), and a leg of Midwest Homebrewer of the Year. It's always a lot of fun - and we're looking for judges to help us out! We have beds for brewers, the traditional "Gumbofest" party the night before the competition where one can consume to their hearts content, special DMC glassware for all judges and stewards, good food for breakfast and lunch the day of judging, a fantastic raffle (The consensus was that last year's raffle was the largest ever seen at a homebrew competition!), and of course great camaraderie and cheer. We really appreciate your dedication of time and effort to help us out, and we want to make sure that you don't go away disappointed! So - if this has piqued your curiosity and you are interested in judging at the DMC, please contact me by e-mail at jformanek`at`griffithlaboratories.com, or by phone at (630) 378-4694. More details on the competition! In addition to the 2004 BJCP categories of beer, mead, and cider, we'll once again feature our own special category, the Menace of the Monastery, for beer styles with roots in the monastic brewing traditions of Belgium and Germany: Belgian blonde, dubbel, tripel, pale, strong golden, and strong dark ales, plus German doppelbock. This year, the winner of Best of Show Beer will have the opportunity to brew their beer at Walter Payton's Roundhouse, the Menace of the Monastery champion will have the same opportunity at Govnor's Pub in Lake of the Hills, IL and, new this year, the Best of Show Mead will be made at Bev Art Brewer & Winemaker Supply in Chicago, IL. Entries will be accepted between February 21st thru March 5th. Please visit the competition website for additional information, forms, and on-line registration: http://www.knaves.org/dmc/ So, its also not too late to brew up a batch or two or three to enter. Cheers! Joe Formanek (Head Judge) -Urban Knaves of Grain www.knaves.org -Drunk Monk Challenge www.knaves.org/dmc ********************************************************************** * JudgeNet - the beer judge digest * * Send plain text only, no HTML, MIME, encoded text or attachments * * Manage your subscription online: http://synchro.com/judge * * Send subscription requests & changes to judge-request`at`synchro.com * ********************************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Liddil Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 06:30:31 -0700 (MST) Subject: It can't happen here. I don't partricpate much at all as a judge anymore but at one time did give some exams and did some test grading. It must really be hard for those who have been volunteering for the BJCP for many years to see the monies disappear. I know it is hard for me to see this happen. But as I read what happened I am reminded of Enron etc. Indeed it was naive to think "it can't happen here". And it would seem that some felt that some of the creative accounting thatt occured at the AHA (and may still go on) would never happen to the BJCP. Read some old HBDs for how much money the AHA was paying people and how they did their taxes. Or how about the whole AHA/BJCP split and what we should have learned. I recall that at one time there was a judge who was an accountant who used to rant here all the time about the accounting practices. Hopefully moving forward we can learn from history and not repeat this. Jim ********************************************************************** * JudgeNet - the beer judge digest * * Send plain text only, no HTML, MIME, encoded text or attachments * * Manage your subscription online: http://synchro.com/judge * * Send subscription requests & changes to judge-request`at`synchro.com * ********************************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thom Cannell Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 11:00:03 -0500 Subject: Re: Digest for the period 2/14/2005 - 2/15/2005 > > Isn't "verbing of nouns" the verbing of noun? Or perhaps that's the point. > :) > > > > Tom Schmidlin Absolutely. And I quote the famous, and lamentably departed scholar Calvin of comic strip fame. If it wasn't for the last minute, nothing would get done. Thom Cannell Cannell & Associates 1650 Lindbergh Dr. Lansing MI 48910-1820 517-371-2058 FAX 413-431-9601 MOBILE 517-896-3098 T_Cannell`at`compuserve.com CannellAndAssociates`at`comcast.net ********************************************************************** * JudgeNet - the beer judge digest * * Send plain text only, no HTML, MIME, encoded text or attachments * * Manage your subscription online: http://synchro.com/judge * * Send subscription requests & changes to judge-request`at`synchro.com * ********************************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kris England Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 11:55:51 -0600 Subject: BJCP CEP PDQ Hello all, Since being elected as the Education Director for the BJCP my team and I have accomplished a lot of the ground work that will lay the foundation for the future. The first task was to organize the actual outline and functionality of the continuing education sessions themselves. The preliminary session outline I have written is one that will take about 2 hours to complete and include a doctored beer tasting, style and technical presentations. At the initiation of the program these sessions will not be optional and attendees will receive points for attending. As I said this is the initial stage. Moving to the near future these are the other tasks that my team will be covering: 1. Vocabulary Words are not descriptors unless you have a frame of reference. What you may be calling oxidation may actually be malt etc. My whole plan is to take all this raw data on aromas and flavors and create an easy to follow road map for judges. Something circular, something that leads into the other. The thing that comes to mind is the periodic table of elements. Most people dont know that its actually supposed to be cylander shaped and feeds perfectly into itself. I have a plan to do 2 levels. A very technical part for your own learning and research and then the lighter version you can use on you feet. 2. Sensory tasting kit Its completely asinine to me that someone would shell out $150 for a few measly samples of some chemical that costs about $1 to make. I do doctored beer sessions all the time for my club and the cost is extremely minimal. Our plan is to devise a set of flavors/aromas that are most importantly cheap and easy to use. 3. Educational products This one isn't as formulated as the rest but I think it would be a great way to teach brewers.kinda a distance learning thing. Something in the lines of streaming video or DVD's with all grain demonstrations, decoction demos, brewery tours, a section on teaching a BJCP course, leading beer tastings.so many possibilities. I would like to STRESS that if anyone has any ideas about any of these areas or especially areas you would like to see me and my group concentrate on please send them to me. Remember this is YOUR organization. Kristen England BJCP Education Director education_director`at`bjcp.org ********************************************************************** * JudgeNet - the beer judge digest * * Send plain text only, no HTML, MIME, encoded text or attachments * * Manage your subscription online: http://synchro.com/judge * * Send subscription requests & changes to judge-request`at`synchro.com * ********************************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Sheck Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 12:02:44 -0500 Subject: Re: Beer vocabulary development Until that happens, may I suggest the Wikopedia? Check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulfate for example. If the article doesn't exist, you can write one if you feel so led. . . Bob Sheck //Down East Alers// Greenville, NC >There was some good discussion on HBD a week or so ago about the >differences between sulfite and sulfide: how they smell, etc. A perfect >candidate for the comprehensive vocabulary list, IMO. Is the committee >going to include sources for all the flavors and smells as part of the >descriptions? > >Francisco Jones ********************************************************************** * JudgeNet - the beer judge digest * * Send plain text only, no HTML, MIME, encoded text or attachments * * Manage your subscription online: http://synchro.com/judge * * Send subscription requests & changes to judge-request`at`synchro.com * **********************************************************************