Subject: Digest for the period 5/20/2004 - 5/21/2004
Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 01:00:54 -0400

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  1. Lagers and Ales (Spencer W. Thomas) 
  2. Re: competition logistics (David Houseman) 


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From: Spencer W. Thomas  Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 13:02:22 -0400
Subject: Lagers and Ales 


Well, that kind of blows the Best of Show round, then.  :-)

My opinion:  A good judge will be fair no matter the mix.  And it 
doesn't matter with a poor judge.

Bill, to which category is it not fair?  The lagers or the ales?  Why is 
it less fair than combining IPA and Bitter, say?

=S

>From: Bill Wible  Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 13:32:59 -0400
>
>I think lagers and ales should NEVER be combined in
>the same category.  Never.  As in NOT EVER.
>  
>
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From: David Houseman  Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 08:27:14 -0400
Subject: Re: competition logistics 


Bill,

So you'd never, ever combine an ale with a lager in judging as unfair?  Do
this mean that if you ran a competition you'd have two BOS judgings, one for
the ales and one for the lagers?  Rather than be concerned about which beers
are judged with what other styles, I suggest we'd all be better off working
on improving our judging so that this isn't an issue.  Judging a first round
should be similar to judging a BOS; each beer is judged to its style not
against the other beers in other styles.   When close, is beer A a better
example of style X than beer B is of style Y?

Dave

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Subject: Digest for the period 5/20/2004 - 5/21/2004
Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 01:00:54 -0400

Table of contents
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  1. Lagers and Ales (Spencer W. Thomas) 
  2. Re: competition logistics (David Houseman) 


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From: Spencer W. Thomas  Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 13:02:22 -0400
Subject: Lagers and Ales 


Well, that kind of blows the Best of Show round, then.  :-)

My opinion:  A good judge will be fair no matter the mix.  And it 
doesn't matter with a poor judge.

Bill, to which category is it not fair?  The lagers or the ales?  Why is 
it less fair than combining IPA and Bitter, say?

=S

>From: Bill Wible  Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 13:32:59 -0400
>
>I think lagers and ales should NEVER be combined in
>the same category.  Never.  As in NOT EVER.
>  
>
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From: David Houseman  Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 08:27:14 -0400
Subject: Re: competition logistics 


Bill,

So you'd never, ever combine an ale with a lager in judging as unfair?  Do
this mean that if you ran a competition you'd have two BOS judgings, one for
the ales and one for the lagers?  Rather than be concerned about which beers
are judged with what other styles, I suggest we'd all be better off working
on improving our judging so that this isn't an issue.  Judging a first round
should be similar to judging a BOS; each beer is judged to its style not
against the other beers in other styles.   When close, is beer A a better
example of style X than beer B is of style Y?

Dave

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