Subject: Digest for the period 4/1/2004 - 4/2/2004
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 01:03:29 -0500

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  1. Silly Question (Pete) 
  2. seeking Dave Sapsis (Jeff Renner) 


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From: Pete  Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 06:26:48 -0500
Subject: Silly Question 


Ok, I realize that it's been requested that we table "exam" type
questions for now, but a friend of mine brought up a question for which
I didn't have a good answer, to wit "Given that the focus of the program
is judging, and the focus of judging is the scoresheet, why the HELL is
the weight of the exam 70/30 the OTHER way?"
Seems to me she has a point. The "info I can look up" counts over twice
as much as the skills I hopefully posesses / am learning / training up.
In my recent retake of the written portion in an effort to replace my
admittedly abysimal initial score, I did a lot of study and research,
and can now easily bore most people for hours on the topic of beer and
beer history. But what good does that do if I can't tell DMS from
Diacetyl? Appropriate lactic sourness form inappropriate acetic?
Enterics from bacteria vs a "1056 yeast effect?" How does my New
Improved score reflect my ability to fill out a scoresheet accurately,
quickly, fairly and completely.
Do we care about that?
Just askin' here...
Pete Bussa
"It's all in the cupholders"


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From: Jeff Renner  Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 10:00:30 -0500
Subject: seeking Dave Sapsis 


Dave

Could you please contact me?  Your fire.ca.gov address bounced, and 
then your earthlink.net one did too.  I don't have any more to try.

Jeff
-- 
Jeff Renner in Ann Arbor, Michigan USA, JeffRenner`at`comcast.net
"One never knows, do one?"  Fats Waller, American Musician, 1904-1943
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Subject: Digest for the period 4/1/2004 - 4/2/2004
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 01:03:29 -0500

Table of contents
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  1. Silly Question (Pete) 
  2. seeking Dave Sapsis (Jeff Renner) 


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From: Pete  Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 06:26:48 -0500
Subject: Silly Question 


Ok, I realize that it's been requested that we table "exam" type
questions for now, but a friend of mine brought up a question for which
I didn't have a good answer, to wit "Given that the focus of the program
is judging, and the focus of judging is the scoresheet, why the HELL is
the weight of the exam 70/30 the OTHER way?"
Seems to me she has a point. The "info I can look up" counts over twice
as much as the skills I hopefully posesses / am learning / training up.
In my recent retake of the written portion in an effort to replace my
admittedly abysimal initial score, I did a lot of study and research,
and can now easily bore most people for hours on the topic of beer and
beer history. But what good does that do if I can't tell DMS from
Diacetyl? Appropriate lactic sourness form inappropriate acetic?
Enterics from bacteria vs a "1056 yeast effect?" How does my New
Improved score reflect my ability to fill out a scoresheet accurately,
quickly, fairly and completely.
Do we care about that?
Just askin' here...
Pete Bussa
"It's all in the cupholders"


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From: Jeff Renner  Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 10:00:30 -0500
Subject: seeking Dave Sapsis 


Dave

Could you please contact me?  Your fire.ca.gov address bounced, and 
then your earthlink.net one did too.  I don't have any more to try.

Jeff
-- 
Jeff Renner in Ann Arbor, Michigan USA, JeffRenner`at`comcast.net
"One never knows, do one?"  Fats Waller, American Musician, 1904-1943
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