Subject: Digest for the period 11/19/2003 - 11/20/2003 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 01:01:43 -0500 Table of contents ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Coffee beans (Pete) 2. Coffee as scent refresher? (Spencer W. Thomas) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 06:55:32 -0500 Subject: Coffee beans Travis asks - Finally, I was curious about something. At Yankee Candle's main store they have little jars of coffee beans that you can sniff in between the candles to revive your sense of smell. Has anyone every used something similar when judging? And yeah, I've experienced that in several 'aromatic' places, perfume and scented oil shops, specifically. The theory is that not only is the coffee a 'different' aroma but a sharp enough one to 'reset' the senseors in out noses. Personal experience suggests that one rapidly heads toward 'overload' however, and loses much ability to smaell anything fairly quickly - like maybe 1/2 hour. Now, in a competition where the 'basic' aromas are not nearly so heavy as in a candle or perfume shop, it might last longer, and be an effective revival. The problem remains, what to sniff? Agreed, we can't use coffee, and it seems to me that most strong aromas show up on beer to one degree or another. Gasoline might work, but out noses might not after that! Alcohol, cheese, cinnamon, orange, any floral - all these are scents we may already need to be watching for... Patchuli, maybe? Great idea, but I've personally had no success persuing it. I'd love to hear from others. Pete Bussa ********************************************************************** * JudgeNet - the beer judge digest * * Send plain text only, no HTML, MIME, encoded text or attachments * * Send subscription requests & changes to judge-request`at`synchro.com * ********************************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Spencer W. Thomas Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:31:27 -0500 Subject: Coffee as scent refresher? At the AHA MIY2K we had a talk from the "flavor wheel" guy, Morten Mielgaard (sp?). He said that they found during their flavor testing that COFFEE had a worse effect on people's ability to detect flavors than SMOKING did! Now maybe smelling coffee beans isn't going to have the same effect. He didn't have an explanation for the phenomenon, just noted that they had observed it. I always thought that was what the bread is for. =Spencer ********************************************************************** * JudgeNet - the beer judge digest * * Send plain text only, no HTML, MIME, encoded text or attachments * * Send subscription requests & changes to judge-request`at`synchro.com * ********************************************************************** Subject: Digest for the period 11/19/2003 - 11/20/2003 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 01:01:43 -0500 Table of contents ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Coffee beans (Pete) 2. Coffee as scent refresher? (Spencer W. Thomas) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 06:55:32 -0500 Subject: Coffee beans Travis asks - Finally, I was curious about something. At Yankee Candle's main store they have little jars of coffee beans that you can sniff in between the candles to revive your sense of smell. Has anyone every used something similar when judging? And yeah, I've experienced that in several 'aromatic' places, perfume and scented oil shops, specifically. The theory is that not only is the coffee a 'different' aroma but a sharp enough one to 'reset' the senseors in out noses. Personal experience suggests that one rapidly heads toward 'overload' however, and loses much ability to smaell anything fairly quickly - like maybe 1/2 hour. Now, in a competition where the 'basic' aromas are not nearly so heavy as in a candle or perfume shop, it might last longer, and be an effective revival. The problem remains, what to sniff? Agreed, we can't use coffee, and it seems to me that most strong aromas show up on beer to one degree or another. Gasoline might work, but out noses might not after that! Alcohol, cheese, cinnamon, orange, any floral - all these are scents we may already need to be watching for... Patchuli, maybe? Great idea, but I've personally had no success persuing it. I'd love to hear from others. Pete Bussa ********************************************************************** * JudgeNet - the beer judge digest * * Send plain text only, no HTML, MIME, encoded text or attachments * * Send subscription requests & changes to judge-request`at`synchro.com * ********************************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Spencer W. Thomas Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:31:27 -0500 Subject: Coffee as scent refresher? At the AHA MIY2K we had a talk from the "flavor wheel" guy, Morten Mielgaard (sp?). He said that they found during their flavor testing that COFFEE had a worse effect on people's ability to detect flavors than SMOKING did! Now maybe smelling coffee beans isn't going to have the same effect. He didn't have an explanation for the phenomenon, just noted that they had observed it. I always thought that was what the bread is for. =Spencer ********************************************************************** * JudgeNet - the beer judge digest * * Send plain text only, no HTML, MIME, encoded text or attachments * * Send subscription requests & changes to judge-request`at`synchro.com * **********************************************************************