Subject: Digest for the period 11/8/2003 - 11/9/2003 Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 01:02:46 -0500 Table of contents ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. RE: Digest for the period 11/5/2003 - 11/6/2003 (Houseman, David L) 2. guidelines format?? (Bob Paolino) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Houseman, David L Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 07:47:10 -0500 Subject: RE: Digest for the period 11/5/2003 - 11/6/2003 Jay asks: "I'd like to take this opportunity to ask a pretty obvious question: Why are the style guidelines not written in the same format as the judging score sheets? There are four general categories (aroma, appearance, flavor, mouthfeel). Could not the style guidelines simply describe what each of these should be for a given type of beer? There is plenty of room for subjective evaluation in the "overall impression" section." Jay, you may be looking at an older version of the style guidelines, not the current 1999 version. The current version is in fact laid out like the score sheets, with descriptions of aroma, appearance, flavor and mouthfeel; just as you suggest. Overall impression, comments, ingredients and specs are then provided. It may be that this order was missed on some style; this is one of the corrections that we're currently making, as Gordon pointed out. But in general what you suggest is exactly what the guidelines are intended to be. David Houseman ********************************************************************** * JudgeNet - the beer judge digest * * Send plain text only, no HTML, MIME, encoded text or attachments * * Send subscription requests & changes to judge-request`at`synchro.com * ********************************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Paolino Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 12:51:14 Subject: guidelines format?? JayAnkeney`at`aol.com wrote on Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:13:44 EST: >Subject: Re: Digest for the period 11/5/2003 - 11/6/2003 > >I'd like to take this opportunity to ask a pretty obvious question: Why are >the style guidelines not written in the same format as the judging score >sheets? There are four general categories (aroma, appearance, flavor, mouthfeel). >Could not the style guidelines simply describe what each of these should be for >a given type of beer? There is plenty of room for subjective evaluation in the >"overall impression" section. I'm not sure I understand the question. Those elements ARE covered in the style guidelines. Yes, there's ALSO some historical information and examples of commercial styles, but what's wrong with that? Is there some (possibly abbreviated) version of the style guidelines that omits the things Jay asks? Now go have a beer, Bob Paolino >From the Department of Military Intelligence and Jumbo Shrimp: Sign seen on a recently poisoned lawn on Johnson: TruGreen/ChemLawn ( ) ASCII ribbon campaign X against HTML e-mail: / \ Friends don't send friends HTML-bloated messages! ********************************************************************** * JudgeNet - the beer judge digest * * Send plain text only, no HTML, MIME, encoded text or attachments * * Send subscription requests & changes to judge-request`at`synchro.com * ********************************************************************** Subject: Digest for the period 11/8/2003 - 11/9/2003 Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 01:02:46 -0500 Table of contents ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. RE: Digest for the period 11/5/2003 - 11/6/2003 (Houseman, David L) 2. guidelines format?? (Bob Paolino) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Houseman, David L Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 07:47:10 -0500 Subject: RE: Digest for the period 11/5/2003 - 11/6/2003 Jay asks: "I'd like to take this opportunity to ask a pretty obvious question: Why are the style guidelines not written in the same format as the judging score sheets? There are four general categories (aroma, appearance, flavor, mouthfeel). Could not the style guidelines simply describe what each of these should be for a given type of beer? There is plenty of room for subjective evaluation in the "overall impression" section." Jay, you may be looking at an older version of the style guidelines, not the current 1999 version. The current version is in fact laid out like the score sheets, with descriptions of aroma, appearance, flavor and mouthfeel; just as you suggest. Overall impression, comments, ingredients and specs are then provided. It may be that this order was missed on some style; this is one of the corrections that we're currently making, as Gordon pointed out. But in general what you suggest is exactly what the guidelines are intended to be. David Houseman ********************************************************************** * JudgeNet - the beer judge digest * * Send plain text only, no HTML, MIME, encoded text or attachments * * Send subscription requests & changes to judge-request`at`synchro.com * ********************************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Paolino Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 12:51:14 Subject: guidelines format?? JayAnkeney`at`aol.com wrote on Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:13:44 EST: >Subject: Re: Digest for the period 11/5/2003 - 11/6/2003 > >I'd like to take this opportunity to ask a pretty obvious question: Why are >the style guidelines not written in the same format as the judging score >sheets? There are four general categories (aroma, appearance, flavor, mouthfeel). >Could not the style guidelines simply describe what each of these should be for >a given type of beer? There is plenty of room for subjective evaluation in the >"overall impression" section. I'm not sure I understand the question. Those elements ARE covered in the style guidelines. Yes, there's ALSO some historical information and examples of commercial styles, but what's wrong with that? Is there some (possibly abbreviated) version of the style guidelines that omits the things Jay asks? Now go have a beer, Bob Paolino >From the Department of Military Intelligence and Jumbo Shrimp: Sign seen on a recently poisoned lawn on Johnson: TruGreen/ChemLawn ( ) ASCII ribbon campaign X against HTML e-mail: / \ Friends don't send friends HTML-bloated messages! ********************************************************************** * JudgeNet - the beer judge digest * * Send plain text only, no HTML, MIME, encoded text or attachments * * Send subscription requests & changes to judge-request`at`synchro.com * **********************************************************************