Subject: Digest for the period 5/10/02 - 5/11/02 Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 01:03:07 -0400 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Next_Part_SYNC728946D39F" --Next_Part_SYNC728946D39F Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Table of contents ---------------------------------------------------------------------- alt example (Jeremy Bergsman) --Next_Part_SYNC728946D39F Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="Message_Part_SYNC728946D39F" --Message_Part_SYNC728946D39F Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: Received: from BIOMED.MED.YALE.EDU ([130.132.232.48]) by synchro.com with SMTP (Mailtraq/1.1.6.1176) id SYNC725946C473 for judge`at`synchro.com; Thu, 09 May 2002 19:18:00 -0400 Received: from bergsman.org (net227-79.med.yale.edu [130.132.227.79]) by biomed.med.yale.edu (PMDF V6.0-24 #37386) with ESMTP id <01KHJ9OAVVX4004NDN`at`biomed.med.yale.edu> for judge at synchro.com; Thu, 09 May 2002 19:18:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 19:19:12 -0400 From: Jeremy Bergsman Reply-To: "JudgeNet - the beer judge digest" Errors-To: judge-owner`at`synchro.com Sender: judge`at`synchro.com Subject: alt example To: JudgeNet - the beer judge digest Message-id: <3CDB03F0.4E18A201`at`bergsman.org> Organization: Yale University MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: X-Hops: 3 X-POST-MessageClass: 10; Mailing List Message A perpetual, if infrequent question here is what commercial beer available in the US represents a Dusseldorf Alt? I've never had the real thing but I've had and made many homebrew attempts, and had some of these calibrated by judges experienced with the real thing, so I've been forming an idea of how these taste. Yesterday I had a beer for the first time, Long Trail Ale, made in Vermont (http://www.longtrail.com/ltpages/family/LTA.html) which purports to be an alt. I found it rather close to what I imagine the real thing tastes like. I guessed the IBUs to be in the upper 30s, a bit less than the guidelines, although the web page referenced above claims 28 (perhaps it was the overly cold serving temperature?). Other characteristics are good, if maybe also a bit conservative in the hop flavor department. In any case a good beer. Can any expert compare and contrast LTA to the real thing? -- Jeremy Bergsman jeremy`at`bergsman.org http://bergsman.org/jeremy Beer tastes good. --Message_Part_SYNC728946D39F-- --Next_Part_SYNC728946D39F-- Subject: Digest for the period 5/10/02 - 5/11/02 Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 01:03:07 -0400 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Next_Part_SYNC728946D39F" --Next_Part_SYNC728946D39F Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Table of contents ---------------------------------------------------------------------- alt example (Jeremy Bergsman) --Next_Part_SYNC728946D39F Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="Message_Part_SYNC728946D39F" --Message_Part_SYNC728946D39F Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: Received: from BIOMED.MED.YALE.EDU ([130.132.232.48]) by synchro.com with SMTP (Mailtraq/1.1.6.1176) id SYNC725946C473 for judge`at`synchro.com; Thu, 09 May 2002 19:18:00 -0400 Received: from bergsman.org (net227-79.med.yale.edu [130.132.227.79]) by biomed.med.yale.edu (PMDF V6.0-24 #37386) with ESMTP id <01KHJ9OAVVX4004NDN`at`biomed.med.yale.edu> for judge at synchro.com; Thu, 09 May 2002 19:18:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 19:19:12 -0400 From: Jeremy Bergsman Reply-To: "JudgeNet - the beer judge digest" Errors-To: judge-owner`at`synchro.com Sender: judge`at`synchro.com Subject: alt example To: JudgeNet - the beer judge digest Message-id: <3CDB03F0.4E18A201`at`bergsman.org> Organization: Yale University MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: X-Hops: 3 X-POST-MessageClass: 10; Mailing List Message A perpetual, if infrequent question here is what commercial beer available in the US represents a Dusseldorf Alt? I've never had the real thing but I've had and made many homebrew attempts, and had some of these calibrated by judges experienced with the real thing, so I've been forming an idea of how these taste. Yesterday I had a beer for the first time, Long Trail Ale, made in Vermont (http://www.longtrail.com/ltpages/family/LTA.html) which purports to be an alt. I found it rather close to what I imagine the real thing tastes like. I guessed the IBUs to be in the upper 30s, a bit less than the guidelines, although the web page referenced above claims 28 (perhaps it was the overly cold serving temperature?). Other characteristics are good, if maybe also a bit conservative in the hop flavor department. In any case a good beer. Can any expert compare and contrast LTA to the real thing? -- Jeremy Bergsman jeremy`at`bergsman.org http://bergsman.org/jeremy Beer tastes good. --Message_Part_SYNC728946D39F-- --Next_Part_SYNC728946D39F--