Subject: Digest for the period 3/8/02 - 3/9/02 Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 01:04:00 -0500 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Next_Part_SYNC57774413C8" --Next_Part_SYNC57774413C8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Table of contents ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Re: Digest for the period 3/7/02 - 3/8/02 (Fred Scheer) RE: Professional Brewers (Houseman, David L) --Next_Part_SYNC57774413C8 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="Message_Part_SYNC57774413C8" --Message_Part_SYNC57774413C8 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.33.82]) by synchro.com with SMTP (Mailtraq/1.1.6.1176) id SYNC57594409FC for judge`at`synchro.com; Fri, 08 Mar 2002 07:30:05 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 04:30:04 -0800 Received: from 67.232.149.20 by pv0fd.pav0.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 08 Mar 2002 12:30:04 GMT X-Originating-IP: [67.232.149.20] From: "Fred Scheer" Reply-To: "JudgeNet - the beer judge digest" Errors-To: judge-owner`at`synchro.com Sender: judge`at`synchro.com To: JudgeNet - the beer judge digest Bcc: Subject: Re: Digest for the period 3/7/02 - 3/8/02 Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 06:30:04 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Mar 2002 12:30:04.0750 (UTC) FILETIME=[F993DEE0:01C1C69C] X-Hops: 3 X-POST-MessageClass: 10; Mailing List Message TYLER WROTE: Ok, now I'm curious: Are there a large number of professional brewers involved with the BJCP? Are Pro brewers helping to make up the style guidelines, certify new judges, judge in competitions, and otherwise run the BJCP? Maybe you Pro Brewers would speak up, and let us know you're reading. TYLER: I think that a lot of Pro-Brewers involved with the BJCP, training Homebrewers and others to become Beer Judges. Not only is the guide for preparing for the BJCP exam, it is also a good basic foundation of the knowledge on beer, rawmaterials etc. The Homebrew club that I'm a memeber of, Nashville's Music City Brewers, are training every year for the exam (between 6 - 10 members); we have also two known members (Chuck Bernhard and Jay Sadler) who are teaching, taking exam, running competition etc for the BJCP or in accordance with the BJCP. Than there is Chuck Skypeck, Owner and Founder of BOSCOS Brewpubs (also a founding member of the MCB), who teached MCB's for the exam, himself being a Judge. For myself, I have at altimes the BJCP Beer style Guidelines with me, no matter where I'm judging, AHA or as Judge at the Great American beer festival. Fred M. Scheer _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com --Message_Part_SYNC57774413C8 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: Received: from bbmail1-out.unisys.com ([192.63.108.40]) by synchro.com with SMTP (Mailtraq/1.1.6.1176) id SYNC5761440AED for judge`at`synchro.com; Fri, 08 Mar 2002 09:18:16 -0500 Received: from us-bb-gtwy-1.bb.unisys.com (us-bb-gtwy-1.bb.unisys.com [192.63.78.151]) by bbmail1-out.unisys.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA19109 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:17:44 GMT Received: by us-bb-gtwy-1.bb.unisys.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 09:18:16 -0500 Message-ID: <2AC56C48182B4349AB1906257952AF980EA0A2`at`USTR-EXCH2.na.uis.unisys.com> From: "Houseman, David L" Reply-To: "JudgeNet - the beer judge digest" Errors-To: judge-owner`at`synchro.com Sender: judge`at`synchro.com To: JudgeNet - the beer judge digest Subject: RE: Professional Brewers Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 09:18:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Hops: 3 X-POST-MessageClass: 10; Mailing List Message Tyler asks: "Ok, now I'm curious: Are there a large number of professional brewers involved with the BJCP? Are Pro brewers helping to make up the style guidelines, certify new judges, judge in competitions, and otherwise run the BJCP?" In general I'd agree that most are too busy. But Rex, our Midwest representative, just turned pro (I believe) from a life as a beer writer. Chuck Skypeck is a pro and the BJCP rep from the Southeast. Alan Moen is a beer writer. There are a large number of pro brewers who are in the BJCP; some not all that active. Sure, many competitions have the local brewers, some of whom may be in the BJCP -- some not, as judges in their competitions. To help them keep their participation in the BJCP active, when they judge a professional competition, such as GABF or WBC, BJCP judges will now earn experience points. And some breweries are having their brewers take the BJCP exam as a measure of their competency. They are often eligible for bonuses or salary increases as they progress within the BJCP with higher scores. Steve Casselman was chairman of the Style Guide Committee, and although primarily a home brewer, he does have The Great Beer Company that makes Hollywood Blond, an excellent Koelsch. So, it would seem that the BJCP and the professional brewing scene have a joint history, linkage and interests centered on love of beer, brewing and judging. Dave Houseman --Message_Part_SYNC57774413C8-- --Next_Part_SYNC57774413C8-- Subject: Digest for the period 3/8/02 - 3/9/02 Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 01:04:00 -0500 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Next_Part_SYNC57774413C8" --Next_Part_SYNC57774413C8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Table of contents ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Re: Digest for the period 3/7/02 - 3/8/02 (Fred Scheer) RE: Professional Brewers (Houseman, David L) --Next_Part_SYNC57774413C8 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="Message_Part_SYNC57774413C8" --Message_Part_SYNC57774413C8 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.33.82]) by synchro.com with SMTP (Mailtraq/1.1.6.1176) id SYNC57594409FC for judge`at`synchro.com; Fri, 08 Mar 2002 07:30:05 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 04:30:04 -0800 Received: from 67.232.149.20 by pv0fd.pav0.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 08 Mar 2002 12:30:04 GMT X-Originating-IP: [67.232.149.20] From: "Fred Scheer" Reply-To: "JudgeNet - the beer judge digest" Errors-To: judge-owner`at`synchro.com Sender: judge`at`synchro.com To: JudgeNet - the beer judge digest Bcc: Subject: Re: Digest for the period 3/7/02 - 3/8/02 Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 06:30:04 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Mar 2002 12:30:04.0750 (UTC) FILETIME=[F993DEE0:01C1C69C] X-Hops: 3 X-POST-MessageClass: 10; Mailing List Message TYLER WROTE: Ok, now I'm curious: Are there a large number of professional brewers involved with the BJCP? Are Pro brewers helping to make up the style guidelines, certify new judges, judge in competitions, and otherwise run the BJCP? Maybe you Pro Brewers would speak up, and let us know you're reading. TYLER: I think that a lot of Pro-Brewers involved with the BJCP, training Homebrewers and others to become Beer Judges. Not only is the guide for preparing for the BJCP exam, it is also a good basic foundation of the knowledge on beer, rawmaterials etc. The Homebrew club that I'm a memeber of, Nashville's Music City Brewers, are training every year for the exam (between 6 - 10 members); we have also two known members (Chuck Bernhard and Jay Sadler) who are teaching, taking exam, running competition etc for the BJCP or in accordance with the BJCP. Than there is Chuck Skypeck, Owner and Founder of BOSCOS Brewpubs (also a founding member of the MCB), who teached MCB's for the exam, himself being a Judge. For myself, I have at altimes the BJCP Beer style Guidelines with me, no matter where I'm judging, AHA or as Judge at the Great American beer festival. Fred M. Scheer _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com --Message_Part_SYNC57774413C8 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: Received: from bbmail1-out.unisys.com ([192.63.108.40]) by synchro.com with SMTP (Mailtraq/1.1.6.1176) id SYNC5761440AED for judge`at`synchro.com; Fri, 08 Mar 2002 09:18:16 -0500 Received: from us-bb-gtwy-1.bb.unisys.com (us-bb-gtwy-1.bb.unisys.com [192.63.78.151]) by bbmail1-out.unisys.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA19109 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:17:44 GMT Received: by us-bb-gtwy-1.bb.unisys.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 09:18:16 -0500 Message-ID: <2AC56C48182B4349AB1906257952AF980EA0A2`at`USTR-EXCH2.na.uis.unisys.com> From: "Houseman, David L" Reply-To: "JudgeNet - the beer judge digest" Errors-To: judge-owner`at`synchro.com Sender: judge`at`synchro.com To: JudgeNet - the beer judge digest Subject: RE: Professional Brewers Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 09:18:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Hops: 3 X-POST-MessageClass: 10; Mailing List Message Tyler asks: "Ok, now I'm curious: Are there a large number of professional brewers involved with the BJCP? Are Pro brewers helping to make up the style guidelines, certify new judges, judge in competitions, and otherwise run the BJCP?" In general I'd agree that most are too busy. But Rex, our Midwest representative, just turned pro (I believe) from a life as a beer writer. Chuck Skypeck is a pro and the BJCP rep from the Southeast. Alan Moen is a beer writer. There are a large number of pro brewers who are in the BJCP; some not all that active. Sure, many competitions have the local brewers, some of whom may be in the BJCP -- some not, as judges in their competitions. To help them keep their participation in the BJCP active, when they judge a professional competition, such as GABF or WBC, BJCP judges will now earn experience points. And some breweries are having their brewers take the BJCP exam as a measure of their competency. They are often eligible for bonuses or salary increases as they progress within the BJCP with higher scores. Steve Casselman was chairman of the Style Guide Committee, and although primarily a home brewer, he does have The Great Beer Company that makes Hollywood Blond, an excellent Koelsch. So, it would seem that the BJCP and the professional brewing scene have a joint history, linkage and interests centered on love of beer, brewing and judging. Dave Houseman --Message_Part_SYNC57774413C8-- --Next_Part_SYNC57774413C8--