Subject: Digest for the period 1/15/02 - 1/16/02 Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 01:00:26 -0500 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Next_Part_SYNC452941C272" --Next_Part_SYNC452941C272 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Table of contents ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Stouts.. (Randy Paul) --Next_Part_SYNC452941C272 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="Message_Part_SYNC452941C272" --Message_Part_SYNC452941C272 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: Received: from shell.cais.net ([205.252.14.8]) by synchro.com with SMTP (Mailtraq/1.1.6.1176) id SYNC450041B74B for judge`at`synchro.com; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 20:55:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (randy`at`localhost) by shell.cais.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g0F1tk564487 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 20:55:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from randy`at`computer.org) X-Authentication-Warning: shell.cais.net: randy owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 20:55:46 -0500 (EST) From: Randy Paul Reply-To: "JudgeNet - the beer judge digest" Errors-To: judge-owner`at`synchro.com Sender: judge`at`synchro.com X-Sender: randy`at`shell.cais.net To: JudgeNet - the beer judge digest Subject: Stouts.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Hops: 3 X-POST-MessageClass: 10; Mailing List Message My question on "west coast" stouts was to learn whether judges have been encountering them and to pulse the community on whether there's a particular reason for it not to have a sub-style. My assumptions are that they're not entered often and they don't fit anywhere except specialties, but you-tell-me. It just struck me as odd that this commercially successful craft-brew style doesn't fit well into a competition style. That doesn't make it unique, just rare. Dave makes a key point that our guidelines are the product of the beer that is actually being homebrewed (& competed) and the energies we put-in to define our styles. It seems superfluous to describe the style at this stage, but, yes, a flowery-hopped stout such as Sierra Nevada's is what I have in mind. Since most US hops of all kinds are grown in the Pacific Northwest, I guess I chose a technically misleading name but it seems to have been generally understood. -- Randy --Message_Part_SYNC452941C272-- --Next_Part_SYNC452941C272-- Subject: Digest for the period 1/15/02 - 1/16/02 Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 01:00:26 -0500 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Next_Part_SYNC452941C272" --Next_Part_SYNC452941C272 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Table of contents ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Stouts.. (Randy Paul) --Next_Part_SYNC452941C272 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="Message_Part_SYNC452941C272" --Message_Part_SYNC452941C272 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: Received: from shell.cais.net ([205.252.14.8]) by synchro.com with SMTP (Mailtraq/1.1.6.1176) id SYNC450041B74B for judge`at`synchro.com; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 20:55:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (randy`at`localhost) by shell.cais.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g0F1tk564487 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 20:55:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from randy`at`computer.org) X-Authentication-Warning: shell.cais.net: randy owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 20:55:46 -0500 (EST) From: Randy Paul Reply-To: "JudgeNet - the beer judge digest" Errors-To: judge-owner`at`synchro.com Sender: judge`at`synchro.com X-Sender: randy`at`shell.cais.net To: JudgeNet - the beer judge digest Subject: Stouts.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Hops: 3 X-POST-MessageClass: 10; Mailing List Message My question on "west coast" stouts was to learn whether judges have been encountering them and to pulse the community on whether there's a particular reason for it not to have a sub-style. My assumptions are that they're not entered often and they don't fit anywhere except specialties, but you-tell-me. It just struck me as odd that this commercially successful craft-brew style doesn't fit well into a competition style. That doesn't make it unique, just rare. Dave makes a key point that our guidelines are the product of the beer that is actually being homebrewed (& competed) and the energies we put-in to define our styles. It seems superfluous to describe the style at this stage, but, yes, a flowery-hopped stout such as Sierra Nevada's is what I have in mind. Since most US hops of all kinds are grown in the Pacific Northwest, I guess I chose a technically misleading name but it seems to have been generally understood. -- Randy --Message_Part_SYNC452941C272-- --Next_Part_SYNC452941C272--