Received: from srvr22.engin.umich.edu (root at srvr22.engin.umich.edu [141.213.75.21]) by srvr5.engin.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA03093 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 01:07:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from synchro.com (cccox.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.232.105]) by srvr22.engin.umich.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id BAA06806 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 01:07:29 -0400 (EDT) From: "JudgeNet - the beer judge digest" To: "Digest Recipients" Reply-To: "JudgeNet - the beer judge digest" Subject: Digest for the period 6/5/01 - 6/6/01 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 01:04:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Next_Part_SYNC9153306440" X-Hops: 1 Status: --Next_Part_SYNC9153306440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Table of contents ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Help with BJCP Guidelines (Joel Plutchak) --Next_Part_SYNC9153306440 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="Message_Part_SYNC9153306440" --Message_Part_SYNC9153306440 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: Received: from brew.ncsa.uiuc.edu ([141.142.22.64]) by synchro.com with SMTP (Mailtraq/1.1.5.1167) id SYNC89722FE662 for judge at synchro.com; Tue, 29 May 2001 12:07:04 -0400 Received: from localhost (plutchak at localhost) by brew.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA30011 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 11:07:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: brew.ncsa.uiuc.edu: plutchak owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 11:07:53 -0500 (CDT) From: Joel Plutchak Reply-To: "JudgeNet - the beer judge digest" Errors-To: judge-owner at synchro.com Sender: judge at synchro.com To: JudgeNet - the beer judge digest Subject: Help with BJCP Guidelines Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Hops: 3 X-POST-MessageClass: 10; Mailing List Message I'd like some clarification of the description of category 19E, Belgian Specialty Ale, as it relates to judging in competition. The description is basically wide open, and the only suggestion for judging is "Brewer should specify commercial equivalent for entry, if appropriate." Hypothetically speaking, if one were judging a competition and a Belgian Specialty were encountered that had no accompanying description, how would it reasonably be judged? Strictly hedonically? Should the entrant be required to provide some sort of description to judges? As it currently reads it's not required, and it seems at odds with the kind of stylistic judging we do for most other categories-- seems like it fits more in the Specialty/Experimental/ Historical category, and should be accompanied by some sort of statement of intent by the brewer. Thoughts? Joel Plutchak --Message_Part_SYNC9153306440-- --Next_Part_SYNC9153306440-- Received: from srvr22.engin.umich.edu (root at srvr22.engin.umich.edu [141.213.75.21]) by srvr5.engin.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA03093 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 01:07:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from synchro.com (cccox.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.232.105]) by srvr22.engin.umich.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id BAA06806 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 01:07:29 -0400 (EDT) From: "JudgeNet - the beer judge digest" To: "Digest Recipients" Reply-To: "JudgeNet - the beer judge digest" Subject: Digest for the period 6/5/01 - 6/6/01 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 01:04:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Next_Part_SYNC9153306440" X-Hops: 1 Status: --Next_Part_SYNC9153306440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Table of contents ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Help with BJCP Guidelines (Joel Plutchak) --Next_Part_SYNC9153306440 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="Message_Part_SYNC9153306440" --Message_Part_SYNC9153306440 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: Received: from brew.ncsa.uiuc.edu ([141.142.22.64]) by synchro.com with SMTP (Mailtraq/1.1.5.1167) id SYNC89722FE662 for judge at synchro.com; Tue, 29 May 2001 12:07:04 -0400 Received: from localhost (plutchak at localhost) by brew.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA30011 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 11:07:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: brew.ncsa.uiuc.edu: plutchak owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 11:07:53 -0500 (CDT) From: Joel Plutchak Reply-To: "JudgeNet - the beer judge digest" Errors-To: judge-owner at synchro.com Sender: judge at synchro.com To: JudgeNet - the beer judge digest Subject: Help with BJCP Guidelines Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Hops: 3 X-POST-MessageClass: 10; Mailing List Message I'd like some clarification of the description of category 19E, Belgian Specialty Ale, as it relates to judging in competition. The description is basically wide open, and the only suggestion for judging is "Brewer should specify commercial equivalent for entry, if appropriate." Hypothetically speaking, if one were judging a competition and a Belgian Specialty were encountered that had no accompanying description, how would it reasonably be judged? Strictly hedonically? Should the entrant be required to provide some sort of description to judges? As it currently reads it's not required, and it seems at odds with the kind of stylistic judging we do for most other categories-- seems like it fits more in the Specialty/Experimental/ Historical category, and should be accompanied by some sort of statement of intent by the brewer. Thoughts? Joel Plutchak --Message_Part_SYNC9153306440-- --Next_Part_SYNC9153306440--