Received: from srvr20.engin.umich.edu (root at srvr20.engin.umich.edu [141.213.75.22]) by srvr5.engin.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA25623 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 01:03:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from synchro.com (cccox.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.232.105]) by srvr20.engin.umich.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id BAA23178 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 01:03:31 -0400 (EDT) From: "JudgeNet - the beer judge digest" To: "Digest Recipients" Reply-To: "JudgeNet - the beer judge digest" Subject: Digest for the period 04/14/01 - 04/15/01 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 01:01:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="Next_Part_SYNC79052D2CD4" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Hops: 1 Status: --Next_Part_SYNC79052D2CD4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Table of contents ------------------------------------------------------ Re: Guidelines and Judging Comments (phil sides jr) --Next_Part_SYNC79052D2CD4 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-Path: Received: from chmls06.mediaone.net ([24.147.1.144]) by synchro.com with SMTP (Mailtraq/1.1.4.1123) id SYNC78712D081B for judge at synchro.com; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 15:43:25 -0400 Received: from butthead (h0004ac253244.ne.mediaone.net [24.91.73.24]) by chmls06.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3DJhM823691 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 15:43:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <00fc01c0c451$ef4e3910$18495b18 at butthead> Reply-To: "JudgeNet - the beer judge digest" From: "phil sides jr" Errors-To: judge-owner at synchro.com Sender: judge at synchro.com To: JudgeNet - the beer judge digest Subject: Re: Guidelines and Judging Comments Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 15:42:49 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Hops: 3 X-POST-MessageClass: 10; Mailing List Message >My Scottish ales have received a number of judge >comments over the years that mention a "mild smoky >flavor" or similar words. These beers contained not one >grain of smoked malt, nor did they have any sort of >smoky flavor that I could detect. IMO, these judges >were simply reaching to find a smoky character in the >beer because the style guidelines mentioned it. Wyeast 1728 (reportedly McEwan's) lends a mild smokiness when fermented cool. Presumably the other Scottish yeasts (WLP028 etc.) out there are either the same strain or similar. Pick up a McEwan's Export and try it. There is no smoked malt in those beers. Phil Sides Concord, NH --Next_Part_SYNC79052D2CD4-- Received: from srvr20.engin.umich.edu (root at srvr20.engin.umich.edu [141.213.75.22]) by srvr5.engin.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA25623 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 01:03:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from synchro.com (cccox.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.232.105]) by srvr20.engin.umich.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id BAA23178 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 01:03:31 -0400 (EDT) From: "JudgeNet - the beer judge digest" To: "Digest Recipients" Reply-To: "JudgeNet - the beer judge digest" Subject: Digest for the period 04/14/01 - 04/15/01 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 01:01:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="Next_Part_SYNC79052D2CD4" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Hops: 1 Status: --Next_Part_SYNC79052D2CD4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Table of contents ------------------------------------------------------ Re: Guidelines and Judging Comments (phil sides jr) --Next_Part_SYNC79052D2CD4 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-Path: Received: from chmls06.mediaone.net ([24.147.1.144]) by synchro.com with SMTP (Mailtraq/1.1.4.1123) id SYNC78712D081B for judge at synchro.com; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 15:43:25 -0400 Received: from butthead (h0004ac253244.ne.mediaone.net [24.91.73.24]) by chmls06.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3DJhM823691 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 15:43:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <00fc01c0c451$ef4e3910$18495b18 at butthead> Reply-To: "JudgeNet - the beer judge digest" From: "phil sides jr" Errors-To: judge-owner at synchro.com Sender: judge at synchro.com To: JudgeNet - the beer judge digest Subject: Re: Guidelines and Judging Comments Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 15:42:49 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Hops: 3 X-POST-MessageClass: 10; Mailing List Message >My Scottish ales have received a number of judge >comments over the years that mention a "mild smoky >flavor" or similar words. These beers contained not one >grain of smoked malt, nor did they have any sort of >smoky flavor that I could detect. IMO, these judges >were simply reaching to find a smoky character in the >beer because the style guidelines mentioned it. Wyeast 1728 (reportedly McEwan's) lends a mild smokiness when fermented cool. Presumably the other Scottish yeasts (WLP028 etc.) out there are either the same strain or similar. Pick up a McEwan's Export and try it. There is no smoked malt in those beers. Phil Sides Concord, NH --Next_Part_SYNC79052D2CD4--