Received: from srvr20.engin.umich.edu (root at srvr20.engin.umich.edu [141.213.75.22]) by srvr5.engin.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA12538 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 01:04:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from synchro.com (cccox.ne.mediaone.net [24.218.136.73]) by srvr20.engin.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id BAA19705 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 01:04:27 -0500 (EST) From: "JudgeNet - the beer judge digest" To: "Digest Recipients" Reply-To: "JudgeNet - the beer judge digest" Subject: Digest for the period 01/27/00 - 01/28/00 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 01:02:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="Next_Part_SYNC7273146BFA" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Hops: 1 Status: RO --Next_Part_SYNC7273146BFA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Table of contents ------------------------------------------------------ Elections of BJCP Regional Representatives (Bill Slack) Alts (BrewInfo) --Next_Part_SYNC7273146BFA Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-Path: Received: from mercury.mv.net ([199.125.85.40]) by synchro.com with SMTP (Mailtraq/1.1.4.1073) id SYNC72571458A9 for judge at synchro.com; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:44:31 -0500 Received: from slack (slack.org [199.125.107.152]) by mercury.mv.net (8.8.8/mem-971025) with SMTP id JAA01657 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:44:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <12D4BB2F.6E3F at slack.org> Date: Sat, 05 Jan 1980 09:43:59 -0500 From: Bill Slack Errors-To: judge-owner at synchro.com Sender: judge at synchro.com Reply-To: "JudgeNet - the beer judge digest" Organization: W. R. Slack X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: JudgeNet - the beer judge digest Subject: Elections of BJCP Regional Representatives Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------6CE5B3076E5" X-Hops: 3 X-POST-MessageClass: 10; Mailing List Message This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------6CE5B3076E5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Attached is the announcement of upcoming elections for BJCP Regional Representatives from the Mountain/Northwest, South(Gulf Coast) and Northeast Regions. The Northeast representative is standing for re-election, the other two have not yet indicated their intentions. --------------6CE5B3076E5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="elnot2.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="elnot2.txt" To the members of the Northwest/Mountain, South(Gulf Coast) and Northeast Regions of the BJCP: This year we will hold an election for the position of Regional Representative from these Regions. Each Regional Representative sits on the Board of Directors of the BJCP and represents the interests of BJCP members from his/her Region. The term of office is two years, starting on 1 June. Any member in good standing who resides in the Region may run for this office. If you are interested in serving the BJCP in this capacity, please immediately notify the Program Administrator of your candidacy as follows: Russ Wigglesworth Program Administrator, BJCP PO Box 751271 Petaluma CA 94975 (707)769-0425 or email him at program_admin at bjcp.org You will have to provide a statement of candidacy which includes whatever biographical material and statement of position that you wish the electorate to know. It must not exceed 500 words in length. You must also provide an endorsing statement signed by at least five BJCP members in good standing from your Region. Each endorser must provide name, address, (or BJCP Member number), signature and BJCP Rank. We would like to have all paperwork in by 1 March. You can be a little late as long as you notify Russ of your candidacy right away. If you need more time for the signatures, you can work that out with Russ. On a practical note, the only way we are able to run our geographically diverse organization is through heavy use of email and telephone so you should have reliable internet access in order to be effective in this position. Directors are not paid but reasonable expenses may be reimbursed. Cheers, Bill Slack President and Representative for the Northeast Region Board of Directors Beer Judge Certification Program, Inc. --------------6CE5B3076E5-- --Next_Part_SYNC7273146BFA Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-Path: Received: from mail.xnet.com ([198.147.221.67]) by synchro.com with SMTP (Mailtraq/1.1.4.1073) id SYNC7261145D04 for judge at synchro.com; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:25:54 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id MAA25720; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:25:49 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 4947) id 34D6B3AF8D; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:25:49 -0600 (CST) To: JudgeNet - the beer judge digest Cc: korz at brewinfo.com Subject: Alts Message-Id: <20000127182549.34D6B3AF8D at typhoon.xnet.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:25:49 -0600 (CST) From: brewinfo at xnet.com (BrewInfo) Reply-To: "JudgeNet - the beer judge digest" Errors-To: judge-owner at synchro.com Sender: judge at synchro.com X-Hops: 3 X-POST-MessageClass: 10; Mailing List Message Joel writes: >Jeremy Bergman wrote: >> Just picked up some Widmer Winternacht. The info on the 6pack leads me to >> believe that this may be the fabled ur-alt normally served only at the >> brewery and reputed to be an (the only?) authentic Du:sseldorf-style altbier >> brewed in the US. > >FYI, Ipswich Brewing (now) does Dornbusch Alt, brewed under >supervision of Altbier author and Duesseldorf native Horst >Dornbusch. That one may qualify fas another "authentic" >(whatever that means for a beer brewed outside it's namesake >city) D-er Altbier. Twice in the past 6 months I've had the >happy opportunity to taste Altbier hand-carried from the >source, and the Dornbusch Alt certainly has the same sorts of >characteristics. There are two schools of thought in Duesseldorf... I subscribe to the less-common one, but the one that is practiced by what is widely agreed upon as the finest Altbier producer: Zum Uerige. The grain bill is pretty much 99% Munich and 1% very dark malt (Weyermann calls theirs Carafa). The other school of thought is one where the grain bill also includes some Pils, some crystal malt and a larger percentage is very dark malt. I happen to know that Horst Dornbusch is buddy buddy with a very large brewer in Duesseldorf, one which subscribes to the second school of thought and therefore the former school of thought is given only a passing mention in Dornbusch's book. If you read his book carefully, you will find that he contradicts himself between the text and recipes. While he admits the former school's grain bill is more traditional, he quickly sweeps that under the carpet and virtually all the recipes contain far more crystal and Pils than is traditional. His recipes' hop rates are rather wimpy too and most of the recipes are dryhopped (which is contrary to what's common in Duesseldorf *and* his own text). Now, I've had numerous disagreements with Dornbusch on this and he keeps mentioning the fact that the majority of Alt brewed in Duesseldorf is brewed while subscribing to the second school of thought. I conceed this is true, but I feel it is far more important to hang on to tradition, ESPECIALLY in a book about Altbier. It's like in basketball... if you move your pivot foot, you drift from your origin. Zum Uerige is that origin and Dornbusch should be whistled for travelling. Al. Al Korzonas, Lockport, Illinois, USA korz at brewinfo.com http://www.brewinfo.com/brewinfo/ --Next_Part_SYNC7273146BFA-- Received: from srvr20.engin.umich.edu (root at srvr20.engin.umich.edu [141.213.75.22]) by srvr5.engin.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA12538 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 01:04:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from synchro.com (cccox.ne.mediaone.net [24.218.136.73]) by srvr20.engin.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id BAA19705 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 01:04:27 -0500 (EST) From: "JudgeNet - the beer judge digest" To: "Digest Recipients" Reply-To: "JudgeNet - the beer judge digest" Subject: Digest for the period 01/27/00 - 01/28/00 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 01:02:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="Next_Part_SYNC7273146BFA" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Hops: 1 Status: RO --Next_Part_SYNC7273146BFA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Table of contents ------------------------------------------------------ Elections of BJCP Regional Representatives (Bill Slack) Alts (BrewInfo) --Next_Part_SYNC7273146BFA Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-Path: Received: from mercury.mv.net ([199.125.85.40]) by synchro.com with SMTP (Mailtraq/1.1.4.1073) id SYNC72571458A9 for judge at synchro.com; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:44:31 -0500 Received: from slack (slack.org [199.125.107.152]) by mercury.mv.net (8.8.8/mem-971025) with SMTP id JAA01657 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:44:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <12D4BB2F.6E3F at slack.org> Date: Sat, 05 Jan 1980 09:43:59 -0500 From: Bill Slack Errors-To: judge-owner at synchro.com Sender: judge at synchro.com Reply-To: "JudgeNet - the beer judge digest" Organization: W. R. Slack X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: JudgeNet - the beer judge digest Subject: Elections of BJCP Regional Representatives Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------6CE5B3076E5" X-Hops: 3 X-POST-MessageClass: 10; Mailing List Message This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------6CE5B3076E5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Attached is the announcement of upcoming elections for BJCP Regional Representatives from the Mountain/Northwest, South(Gulf Coast) and Northeast Regions. The Northeast representative is standing for re-election, the other two have not yet indicated their intentions. --------------6CE5B3076E5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="elnot2.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="elnot2.txt" To the members of the Northwest/Mountain, South(Gulf Coast) and Northeast Regions of the BJCP: This year we will hold an election for the position of Regional Representative from these Regions. Each Regional Representative sits on the Board of Directors of the BJCP and represents the interests of BJCP members from his/her Region. The term of office is two years, starting on 1 June. Any member in good standing who resides in the Region may run for this office. If you are interested in serving the BJCP in this capacity, please immediately notify the Program Administrator of your candidacy as follows: Russ Wigglesworth Program Administrator, BJCP PO Box 751271 Petaluma CA 94975 (707)769-0425 or email him at program_admin at bjcp.org You will have to provide a statement of candidacy which includes whatever biographical material and statement of position that you wish the electorate to know. It must not exceed 500 words in length. You must also provide an endorsing statement signed by at least five BJCP members in good standing from your Region. Each endorser must provide name, address, (or BJCP Member number), signature and BJCP Rank. We would like to have all paperwork in by 1 March. You can be a little late as long as you notify Russ of your candidacy right away. If you need more time for the signatures, you can work that out with Russ. On a practical note, the only way we are able to run our geographically diverse organization is through heavy use of email and telephone so you should have reliable internet access in order to be effective in this position. Directors are not paid but reasonable expenses may be reimbursed. Cheers, Bill Slack President and Representative for the Northeast Region Board of Directors Beer Judge Certification Program, Inc. --------------6CE5B3076E5-- --Next_Part_SYNC7273146BFA Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-Path: Received: from mail.xnet.com ([198.147.221.67]) by synchro.com with SMTP (Mailtraq/1.1.4.1073) id SYNC7261145D04 for judge at synchro.com; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:25:54 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id MAA25720; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:25:49 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 4947) id 34D6B3AF8D; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:25:49 -0600 (CST) To: JudgeNet - the beer judge digest Cc: korz at brewinfo.com Subject: Alts Message-Id: <20000127182549.34D6B3AF8D at typhoon.xnet.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:25:49 -0600 (CST) From: brewinfo at xnet.com (BrewInfo) Reply-To: "JudgeNet - the beer judge digest" Errors-To: judge-owner at synchro.com Sender: judge at synchro.com X-Hops: 3 X-POST-MessageClass: 10; Mailing List Message Joel writes: >Jeremy Bergman wrote: >> Just picked up some Widmer Winternacht. The info on the 6pack leads me to >> believe that this may be the fabled ur-alt normally served only at the >> brewery and reputed to be an (the only?) authentic Du:sseldorf-style altbier >> brewed in the US. > >FYI, Ipswich Brewing (now) does Dornbusch Alt, brewed under >supervision of Altbier author and Duesseldorf native Horst >Dornbusch. That one may qualify fas another "authentic" >(whatever that means for a beer brewed outside it's namesake >city) D-er Altbier. Twice in the past 6 months I've had the >happy opportunity to taste Altbier hand-carried from the >source, and the Dornbusch Alt certainly has the same sorts of >characteristics. There are two schools of thought in Duesseldorf... I subscribe to the less-common one, but the one that is practiced by what is widely agreed upon as the finest Altbier producer: Zum Uerige. The grain bill is pretty much 99% Munich and 1% very dark malt (Weyermann calls theirs Carafa). The other school of thought is one where the grain bill also includes some Pils, some crystal malt and a larger percentage is very dark malt. I happen to know that Horst Dornbusch is buddy buddy with a very large brewer in Duesseldorf, one which subscribes to the second school of thought and therefore the former school of thought is given only a passing mention in Dornbusch's book. If you read his book carefully, you will find that he contradicts himself between the text and recipes. While he admits the former school's grain bill is more traditional, he quickly sweeps that under the carpet and virtually all the recipes contain far more crystal and Pils than is traditional. His recipes' hop rates are rather wimpy too and most of the recipes are dryhopped (which is contrary to what's common in Duesseldorf *and* his own text). Now, I've had numerous disagreements with Dornbusch on this and he keeps mentioning the fact that the majority of Alt brewed in Duesseldorf is brewed while subscribing to the second school of thought. I conceed this is true, but I feel it is far more important to hang on to tradition, ESPECIALLY in a book about Altbier. It's like in basketball... if you move your pivot foot, you drift from your origin. Zum Uerige is that origin and Dornbusch should be whistled for travelling. Al. Al Korzonas, Lockport, Illinois, USA korz at brewinfo.com http://www.brewinfo.com/brewinfo/ --Next_Part_SYNC7273146BFA--