Received: from srvr22.engin.umich.edu (root at srvr22.engin.umich.edu [141.212.2.35]) by srvr5.engin.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA16475 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 01:07:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from synchro.com (cccox.ne.mediaone.net [24.218.136.73]) by srvr22.engin.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id BAA22647 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 01:07:07 -0400 (EDT) From: "JudgeNet - the beer judge digest" To: "Digest Recipients" Reply-To: "JudgeNet - the beer judge digest" Subject: Digest for the period 07/04/99 - 07/05/99 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 01:00:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="Next_Part_SYNC23059038F" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Hops: 1 Status: RO --Next_Part_SYNC23059038F Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Table of contents ------------------------------------------------------ AHA vs BJCP Guidelines (David Houseman) (David Houseman) --Next_Part_SYNC23059038F Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-Path: Received: from priam.chesco.net ([204.108.253.90]) by synchro.com with SMTP (Mailtraq/1.1.3.1060) id SYNC22738F94B for judge at synchro.com; Sat, 03 Jul 1999 17:12:15 -0400 Received: from TR-dlhousemanREM.tr.unisys.com (shiva2.btcwcu.org [204.108.253.141]) by priam.chesco.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA24778; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 17:13:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 17:13:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907032113.RAA24778 at priam.chesco.net> X-Sender: dhousema at mail.cccbi.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: JudgeNet - the beer judge digest From: David Houseman Reply-To: "JudgeNet - the beer judge digest" Errors-To: judge-owner at synchro.com Sender: judge at synchro.com Subject: AHA vs BJCP Guidelines Cc: judge at synchro.com X-Hops: 3 X-POST-MessageClass: 10; Mailing List Message Curt Speaker asks why the two guidelines are different. Good question. Basically I believe it was just interpretation of the styles, after all the classic examples of the styles speak for themselves no matter what we may say. But there are lots of examples of most of the styles, so some variations must be accounted for. Otherwise the guidelines would just be the specs for one example for each style and competitions would have brewers only trying to get close to that one commerical example. But help is on the way. By way of a status report I can say that the BJCP Style Guide Committee is close to completing a new, complete rewrite of its style guide. Hopefully these will be ready to vote on by the BJCP Board within a month or so at which time it's expected to be posted on the BJCP web site. Also, at the AHA convention in Kansas City, the AHA, through its Board of Advisors, has agreed to accept the new BJCP Style Guide for their use in Sanctioned Competitions and the National Homebrew Competition for 2000 and beyond, once these have been accepted by the BJCP Board. We also expect to have annual (or bi-annual) updates that will begin at the end of March and conclude by October 1st of each (every other) year. So we expect this style guide to be a living document that will change as the hobby changes and styles become popular homebrew styles or fall out of favor or as more information is available to update the existing styles. Just remember that this is only a status report and that it's not beer soup yet. Dave Houseman BJCP MidAtlantic Representative AHA Board of Advisors --Next_Part_SYNC23059038F Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-Path: Received: from priam.chesco.net ([204.108.253.90]) by synchro.com with SMTP (Mailtraq/1.1.3.1060) id SYNC22738F957 for judge at synchro.com; Sat, 03 Jul 1999 17:19:25 -0400 Received: from TR-dlhousemanREM.tr.unisys.com (shiva2.btcwcu.org [204.108.253.141]) by priam.chesco.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA27503 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 17:20:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 17:20:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907032120.RAA27503 at priam.chesco.net> X-Sender: dhousema at mail.cccbi.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: JudgeNet - the beer judge digest From: David Houseman Reply-To: "JudgeNet - the beer judge digest" Errors-To: judge-owner at synchro.com Sender: judge at synchro.com Subject: X-Hops: 3 X-POST-MessageClass: 10; Mailing List Message This is Rob's post to HomeBrew Digest for those that might not subscribe to that forum. He desires a lot of credit for making this possible. Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 20:59:43 -0500 From: "Rob Moline" Subject: The Jethro Gump Report The Jethro Gump Report The Lallemand Scholarship.... Lallemand, of Montreal, Canada, has generously donated a full scholarship to the Siebel Institute's Short Course In Brewing Technology, to be awarded to a member of the American Homebrewers Association, at the next AHA National Convention. This scholarship, currently worth US$ 2500, will be accompanied by a US$ 1000 stipend to be applied to travel and accomodation costs. This benefit for members of the AHA will also allow for a substitute award, of a 2 week Microbiology Course for Brewers at the Siebel Institute, with a similar travel/hotel stipend, for those members of the AHA that feel they might be overwhelmed by a Short Course. This will accomodate the needs of the winner, whether they be the newest of the newbies, or the more accomplished brewer. Those are the main points.....the finer points are yet to be fully enumerated, but this much is sure..... 1) This award is not based on merit...you don't have to win seventeen medals in competition to win....It will be drawn from those members who wish to be involved. 2) This award will be based on an entry, one per interested member into the drawing. "Interested Member" at this point means a member of the AHA that submits a card, later to be defined/produced, that states (paraphrased) "I am interested in winning the Lallemand Scholarship. I will take the Scholarship within the 12 months following the award, and will report my experiences. My member number is *.*, and my expiration date is *.* " 3) Each new member is to receive access to this opportunity, and the member that refers that new member will also receive an additional entry. 4) This offer is not open to members of the BoA, nor to any person employed by the AOB, or Lallemand. 5) This offer is void where prohibited by law. 6) This offer is not transferable, nor redeemable for cash or any other substitute, with the exception of the Short Course for a Microbiology Course. That sums it up. Obviously, you may look for the complete details to be released from the AHA on their website, and in Zymurgy, (this will miss the next issue, though) when they are finalized. The prize is locked in...it will be awarded. The fine print just has to be delivered to the lawyers, and approved. You will be sure to read it in a JG Report on HBD as well. But, I do hope that you see this as I do...a solid member benefit. Hopefully, just one of many to follow! Cheers! Jethro Gump Rob Moline BoA, AHA American Homebrewers Association Ames Brewers League Institute For Brewing Studies Master Brewers Association of the Americas Lallemand brewer at isunet.net jethro at isunet.net "The More I Know About Beer, The More I Realize I Need To Know More About Beer!" --Next_Part_SYNC23059038F-- Received: from srvr22.engin.umich.edu (root at srvr22.engin.umich.edu [141.212.2.35]) by srvr5.engin.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA16475 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 01:07:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from synchro.com (cccox.ne.mediaone.net [24.218.136.73]) by srvr22.engin.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id BAA22647 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 01:07:07 -0400 (EDT) From: "JudgeNet - the beer judge digest" To: "Digest Recipients" Reply-To: "JudgeNet - the beer judge digest" Subject: Digest for the period 07/04/99 - 07/05/99 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 01:00:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="Next_Part_SYNC23059038F" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Hops: 1 Status: RO --Next_Part_SYNC23059038F Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Table of contents ------------------------------------------------------ AHA vs BJCP Guidelines (David Houseman) (David Houseman) --Next_Part_SYNC23059038F Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-Path: Received: from priam.chesco.net ([204.108.253.90]) by synchro.com with SMTP (Mailtraq/1.1.3.1060) id SYNC22738F94B for judge at synchro.com; Sat, 03 Jul 1999 17:12:15 -0400 Received: from TR-dlhousemanREM.tr.unisys.com (shiva2.btcwcu.org [204.108.253.141]) by priam.chesco.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA24778; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 17:13:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 17:13:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907032113.RAA24778 at priam.chesco.net> X-Sender: dhousema at mail.cccbi.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: JudgeNet - the beer judge digest From: David Houseman Reply-To: "JudgeNet - the beer judge digest" Errors-To: judge-owner at synchro.com Sender: judge at synchro.com Subject: AHA vs BJCP Guidelines Cc: judge at synchro.com X-Hops: 3 X-POST-MessageClass: 10; Mailing List Message Curt Speaker asks why the two guidelines are different. Good question. Basically I believe it was just interpretation of the styles, after all the classic examples of the styles speak for themselves no matter what we may say. But there are lots of examples of most of the styles, so some variations must be accounted for. Otherwise the guidelines would just be the specs for one example for each style and competitions would have brewers only trying to get close to that one commerical example. But help is on the way. By way of a status report I can say that the BJCP Style Guide Committee is close to completing a new, complete rewrite of its style guide. Hopefully these will be ready to vote on by the BJCP Board within a month or so at which time it's expected to be posted on the BJCP web site. Also, at the AHA convention in Kansas City, the AHA, through its Board of Advisors, has agreed to accept the new BJCP Style Guide for their use in Sanctioned Competitions and the National Homebrew Competition for 2000 and beyond, once these have been accepted by the BJCP Board. We also expect to have annual (or bi-annual) updates that will begin at the end of March and conclude by October 1st of each (every other) year. So we expect this style guide to be a living document that will change as the hobby changes and styles become popular homebrew styles or fall out of favor or as more information is available to update the existing styles. Just remember that this is only a status report and that it's not beer soup yet. Dave Houseman BJCP MidAtlantic Representative AHA Board of Advisors --Next_Part_SYNC23059038F Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-Path: Received: from priam.chesco.net ([204.108.253.90]) by synchro.com with SMTP (Mailtraq/1.1.3.1060) id SYNC22738F957 for judge at synchro.com; Sat, 03 Jul 1999 17:19:25 -0400 Received: from TR-dlhousemanREM.tr.unisys.com (shiva2.btcwcu.org [204.108.253.141]) by priam.chesco.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA27503 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 17:20:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 17:20:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907032120.RAA27503 at priam.chesco.net> X-Sender: dhousema at mail.cccbi.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: JudgeNet - the beer judge digest From: David Houseman Reply-To: "JudgeNet - the beer judge digest" Errors-To: judge-owner at synchro.com Sender: judge at synchro.com Subject: X-Hops: 3 X-POST-MessageClass: 10; Mailing List Message This is Rob's post to HomeBrew Digest for those that might not subscribe to that forum. He desires a lot of credit for making this possible. Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 20:59:43 -0500 From: "Rob Moline" Subject: The Jethro Gump Report The Jethro Gump Report The Lallemand Scholarship.... Lallemand, of Montreal, Canada, has generously donated a full scholarship to the Siebel Institute's Short Course In Brewing Technology, to be awarded to a member of the American Homebrewers Association, at the next AHA National Convention. This scholarship, currently worth US$ 2500, will be accompanied by a US$ 1000 stipend to be applied to travel and accomodation costs. This benefit for members of the AHA will also allow for a substitute award, of a 2 week Microbiology Course for Brewers at the Siebel Institute, with a similar travel/hotel stipend, for those members of the AHA that feel they might be overwhelmed by a Short Course. This will accomodate the needs of the winner, whether they be the newest of the newbies, or the more accomplished brewer. Those are the main points.....the finer points are yet to be fully enumerated, but this much is sure..... 1) This award is not based on merit...you don't have to win seventeen medals in competition to win....It will be drawn from those members who wish to be involved. 2) This award will be based on an entry, one per interested member into the drawing. "Interested Member" at this point means a member of the AHA that submits a card, later to be defined/produced, that states (paraphrased) "I am interested in winning the Lallemand Scholarship. I will take the Scholarship within the 12 months following the award, and will report my experiences. My member number is *.*, and my expiration date is *.* " 3) Each new member is to receive access to this opportunity, and the member that refers that new member will also receive an additional entry. 4) This offer is not open to members of the BoA, nor to any person employed by the AOB, or Lallemand. 5) This offer is void where prohibited by law. 6) This offer is not transferable, nor redeemable for cash or any other substitute, with the exception of the Short Course for a Microbiology Course. That sums it up. Obviously, you may look for the complete details to be released from the AHA on their website, and in Zymurgy, (this will miss the next issue, though) when they are finalized. The prize is locked in...it will be awarded. The fine print just has to be delivered to the lawyers, and approved. You will be sure to read it in a JG Report on HBD as well. But, I do hope that you see this as I do...a solid member benefit. Hopefully, just one of many to follow! Cheers! Jethro Gump Rob Moline BoA, AHA American Homebrewers Association Ames Brewers League Institute For Brewing Studies Master Brewers Association of the Americas Lallemand brewer at isunet.net jethro at isunet.net "The More I Know About Beer, The More I Realize I Need To Know More About Beer!" --Next_Part_SYNC23059038F--