Received: from srvr22.engin.umich.edu (root at srvr22.engin.umich.edu [141.212.2.35]) by srvr5.engin.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA09277 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 01:08:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from synchro.com (cccox.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.144.90]) by srvr22.engin.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id BAA26852 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 01:08:21 -0400 (EDT) From: "JudgeNet - the beer judge digest" To: "Digest Recipients" Reply-To: "JudgeNet - the beer judge digest" Subject: Digest for the period 04/22/99 - 04/23/99 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 01:05:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="Next_Part_SYNC5536B8EB" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Hops: 1 Status: RO --Next_Part_SYNC5536B8EB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Table of contents ------------------------------------------------------ No styles? (Spencer W Thomas) --Next_Part_SYNC5536B8EB Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-Path: Received: from postoffice.harvard.net by synchro.com with POP3 (Mailtraq/1.1.0.1036) id SYNC5196B5DD; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:48:58 -0400 Received: (from root at localhost) by airsupply.harvard.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) id OAA03509 for postmaster at synchro.com; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:47:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from hubris.engin.umich.edu (root at hubris.engin.umich.edu [207.75.146.24]) by airsupply.harvard.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA03266 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:46:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (spencer at localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hubris.engin.umich.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA05333 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:45:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199904211945.PAA05333 at hubris.engin.umich.edu> To: JudgeNet - the beer judge digest Subject: No styles? Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:45:31 -0400 From: Spencer W Thomas Reply-To: "JudgeNet - the beer judge digest" Errors-To: judge-owner at synchro.com Sender: judge at synchro.com Apparently-To: judge at synchro.com X-Hops: 3 X-POST-MessageClass: 10; Mailing List Message Status: RO A proposal: We totally ditch style guidelines, or keep only the broadest ones (light-colored ale, dark-colored ale, sour ale, etc.) Then we ask the brewer to write a little essay about what they were trying to accomplish with the brew. All the "style" bits on the current score sheet turn into "how closely did the brewer get to what he/she was intending?" The technical quality and "drinkability" parts address whether it's "objectively" a good beer regardless of its "style." "This won't work," you say, "people will just write down what the beer *is* like, instead of what they wanted it to be." To which I say: "hah!" I can't count how many times I've been at a homebrew meeting and someone came up and said "try this, it's just like SNPA!" And it's sweet and bland. It would be interesting to run such a competition, just to see how it worked. Maybe add an "open" category to an existing competition? Ok, I've said my piece. Now you shoot it down! =Spencer Thomas in Ann Arbor, MI (spencer at umich.edu) --Next_Part_SYNC5536B8EB--