Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 05:17:33 -0500
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judge-digest               Monday, 30 March 1998       Volume 01 : Number 1558

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 Judging Without Tasting?!
 Re:    judge-digest V1 #1557

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From: pgarofalo at juno.com
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 23:30:20 -0500
Subject: Judging Without Tasting?!

In Judgenet #1557, Dion Hollenbeck writes:

>However, if a panel gets a gusher, then smells that the beer is badly
>infected, it may be prudent *not* to taste it due to fouling the
>palate for the rest of the flight.  I would have to carefully think
>this over based on how bad the beer actually smelled.

Personally, I can think of no legitimate excuse to not taste any beer
when judging. I have judged many hundreds of beers in competitions, and
certainly I've come across some pretty vile examples...but I would not
*ever* consider filling out an evaluation without first tasting the beer.
Even if I know it's going to be bad, I feel I owe it to the brewer to
give a complete assessment, and last time I checked, 19 points out of 50
were for flavor.

I am speaking from very recent experience, as this happened to me this
very afternoon while judging. Alas, the beer tasted even worse than it
smelled. But, I was able to give more pointed and hopefully helpful
feedback to the brewer after tasting, as a different problem was revealed
that may help the brewer narrow the problem area. I was still able to
finish up the other 18 beers in the flight, then drive 4 hours home. God,
I love this sport!

Cheers,

Peter Garofalo

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From: OudBruin <OudBruin at aol.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 00:09:18 EST
Subject: Re:    judge-digest V1 #1557

Re: disgruntled Competition Coordinator
From: Bruce Hammell(oudbruin  at aol.com)

Ken Jucks gave voice to being on the recieving end of one of the most
thankless tasks in Homebrew competitions.
While the competition coordinator(or organiser) has most of the
responsibilities, he has little to say about the actual outcome of events-Much
like the Engineer on a train he has little to say about how fast the trains
goes, where it goes or who pays for a ticket, but let just one little thing go
wrong, AND GUESS WHO CATCHES HELL!!
This is for Ken and any other organiser out there who has had to deal with
comitee made decisions and trains running wild, The chain that we forge to
make a good homebrew competition is only as strong as it's weakest link. Take
a break, You desirve it!!
To those naysayers and poopslingers, I say FIE!, 
Don't knock someone unless you are prepared to take over his job...

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