Return-Path: owner-judge at synchro.com Received: from srvr20.engin.umich.edu (root at srvr20.engin.umich.edu [141.212.2.26]) by srvr5.engin.umich.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29568 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 09:11:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (0 at redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by srvr20.engin.umich.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20240 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 09:11:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA10553; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 09:10:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uu6.psi.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id JAA10398; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 09:09:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by uu6.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA14231 for spencer at umich.edu; Fri, 20 Jun 97 09:09:43 -0400 Received: (from majordom at localhost) by synchro.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA14534 for judge-digest-outgoing; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 08:35:24 -0400 Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 08:35:24 -0400 Message-Id: <199706201235.IAA14534 at synchro.com> From: owner-judge-digest at synchro.com To: judge-digest at synchro.com Subject: judge-digest V1 #1458 Reply-To: judge at synchro.com Errors-To: owner-judge-digest at synchro.com Precedence: bulk judge-digest Friday, 20 June 1997 Volume 01 : Number 1458 ============================================================================ J u d g e N e t - t h e b e e r j u d g e d i g e s t ============================================================================ Moderator: Chuck Cox Archivist: Spencer Thomas Publisher: SynchroSystems Submissions: judge at synchro.com Subscriptions: judge-request at synchro.com Archive: http://realbeer.com/spencer/judge BJCP info: geninfo at bjcp.synchro.com ============================================================================ contents: Re: judge-digest V1 #1457 BJCP Style guidelines ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Paolino Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 21:29:12 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: judge-digest V1 #1457 Bill Giffin wrote: > Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 11:18:24 -0500 > Subject: Style guidelines > > The problem truly is that no one pays much attention to the guideline > whether you use the AHA or the BJCP'S. Judges give the first place to > beers which are grossly outside the guidelines and brewers know that to > win, the beer has to be bigger then life. I keep hearing this line, and I keep finding so many counter examples. Last weekend in judged at the University of Illinois' BUZZ competition and we gave BOS to a dry stout. Earlier in the day I judged stouts and in the mini-BOCategory round, it beat out an Imperial. In BOS we had a sometimes contentious process of eliminating the first 16 of the 20 beers. We got to those last four and no one could agree on which to eliminate next. Everyone found some minor stylistic with one beer or another such that we couldn't agree to eliminate another beer because each beer had at least one defender for why it should stay in. Note that first syllable an-. Because we didn't have to pick a 2nd and 3rd, I finally proposed dispensing with the process of elimination and simply picking the winner from the remaining four--the one no one had arguments against, the dry stout, a very flavourful and appropriately LOW gravity brew. The suggestion was enthusiastically embraced and we had our winner. Let's put this "big beer bias" nonsense to rest. A well done low gravity beer can make itself known even in a field of bigger beers if the judges don't trash their palates on the others. Now go have a beer, Bob Paolino rpaolino at earth.execpc.com Madison ------------------------------ From: folsom at ix.netcom.com Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 21:37:06 -0500 (CDT) Subject: BJCP Style guidelines Regarding the BJCP Style guide - In what category would one enter a beer designed to emphasize the use of Rye? This is not all that rare, but doesn't seem to be accomodated. Al Folsom ------------------------------ End of judge-digest V1 #1458 **************************** Send subscription cancellations & changes to judge-request at synchro.com. Messages sent to the wrong address will be ignored.