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JudgeNet Digest #1194				   Wed 10 Jan 1996


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Contents:
  Bashing                                  ("Nathaniel P. Lansing")
  time line                                (drbeer)

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Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 23:02:21 -0500 (EST)
From: "Nathaniel P. Lansing" <delbrew at pgh.nauticom.net>
Subject: Bashing

 I think 'Bashing' maybe a bit strong for the comments made; perhaps the
projected January start date of the AHA's judge program has some people
feeling a little edgy and it is coming out online. I for one feel a little
unsettled by it; I would have liked to say, "Ha,_we_got it done first." We
should think about the constraints that online discussions put on the
thought flow. It is certainly not the optimum way to hold corporate planning
sessions. I am not trying to make excuses for anyone; I only hope the few
points that are holding up the bylaws are truly monumental and worth keeping
everyone on edge.(It's not the dues thing is it?) 
 

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Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 23:35:54 -0500
From: drbeer at tiac.net (drbeer)
Subject: time line

At 01:15 AM 1/4/96 EST,  Dennis wrote:

>Well, the by-laws have to be ratified by the membership before the
>incorporation. Every time by-laws are changed they must be re-submitted to
>the state, and also must be approved by the membership. We want to do this
>right. We hope that these by-laws will not require changes for several
>years. Most of the day to day operational stuff is not listed in the
>by-laws. The only thing is how the BJCP is structured, people elected,
>appointed, purpose, etc. Point awards, exam structure and competitions
>structure are totally independent of the by-laws. This allows an easier
>approach by future boards to make changes in these areas as the BJCP grows,
>but the root the backbone of the organization is what the by-laws contains.
>

I put forward that this is not an academic exercise but a real world
problem.  While I appreciate the goal that this be done right the first
time, the real world often dictates otherwise.  While the final five percent
gets polished the organization lingers on in a vague state without an
ability to truly move forward.  I personally believe sufficient time has
elapsed that unless the remaining issues are very quickly resolved the
organization should be created anyway with the realization that future
elections will help clarify what direction the organization should pursue
and that bylaw modifications will be likely down the road and should be
welcomed not feared.  No matter how good a job you do or how much foresight
you possess you can not predict how the organization will need to change and
in my opinion it is better to put something in place understanding that it
is work in progress and allowing the democratic process to guide this than
to believe you can build something perfect on the first try if only you have
a little more time.


                          Jay 

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