From synchro!judge-owner at uu6.psi.com Wed Mar 15 08:33:32 1995 Status: O X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil t nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["6482" "" "15" "March" "1995" "07:21:33" "EST" "JudgeNet Administrator" "judge-owner at synchro.com" nil "182" "JudgeNet Digest #997 (Mar 15, 1995)" "^From:" nil nil "3" nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.6.9/2.2) with X.500 id IAA20029; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 08:33:02 -0500 Received: from goodman.itn.med.umich.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.6.9/2.2) with SMTP id IAA20017; Wed, 15 Mar 1995 08:33:01 -0500 Received: from uu6.psi.com by goodman.itn.med.umich.edu with SMTP id AA26618 (5.65b/IDA-1.4.3 for spencer at umich.edu); Wed, 15 Mar 95 08:33:20 -0500 Received: from synchro.UUCP by uu6.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA13895 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 95 08:12:02 -0500 Received: by synchro.com (smail2.5) id AA18239; 15 Mar 95 07:21:33 EST (Wed) Reply-To: judge at synchro.com (JudgeNet) Errors-To: judge-error at synchro.com Precedence: bulk Message-Id: <9503150721.AA18239 at synchro.com> From: judge-owner at synchro.com (JudgeNet Administrator) To: judge-recipients at synchro.com (JudgeNet Recipients) Subject: JudgeNet Digest #997 (Mar 15, 1995) Date: 15 Mar 95 07:21:33 EST (Wed) JudgeNet Digest #997 Wed 15 Mar 1995 THE BEER JUDGE DIGEST digest submissions: judge at synchro.com administrative requests: judge-request at synchro.com send cancellations & rank updates to the administrative address messages sent to the wrong address will be ignored FTP Archives: guraldi.hgp.med.umich.edu in /pub/judge WWW Archives: http://guraldi.hgp.med.umich.edu/Beer/Judge Gopher Archives: guraldi.hgp.med.umich.edu Editor: Chuck Cox Archivist: Spencer Thomas Publishers: SynchroSystems and the Riverside Garage & Brewery Contents: Reaching judges (bickham) WIT BEERS (Charles Wettergreen) A question for the cider gurus (bickham) I'm in control now! (Chuck Cox) Call for code-of-conduct (ALKinchen) Subscribe (Neill Thaggard) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 12:06:51 -0500 (EST) From: bickham at msc.cornell.edu Subject: Reaching judges Steve Black writes: > > I also agree with Chuck that JudgeNet represents a viable first alternative > for the rapid and inexpensive dissemination of information. I would guess > that far greater than 10% of registered judges already have access to email. > If not, most won't be far behind, as recent estimates of the logarithmic > Internet population boom attest. If Pat Baker (or yours truly) can find his > way through cyberspace, so can most anyone! I'll add that even the judges from our club who aren't on e-mail are only a phone call away. I've been relaying developments in the BJCP at our bimonthly meetings, so the communication tree goes much farther than just my single e-mail address. Cheers, Scott - -- ======================================================================== Scott Bickham bickham at msc.cornell.edu ========================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 95 11:07 CST From: chuckmw at mcs.com (Charles Wettergreen) Subject: WIT BEERS To: judge at synchro.com I'd like a clarification please. I've read the descriptions of Celis and other Wit beers to include some portion of lactic-soured beer, but the AHA description of "Belgian and French ale - white (2f)" doesn't say anything about lactic sourness. What am I missing here? TIA, Chuck /*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/* Chuck Wettergreen One beer at a sitting is OK. Two beers, maybe. Chuckmw at mcs.com But anything beyond that number goes over the Geneva, Illinois line of recreational drinking. Ann Landers /*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/**/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/**/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/* * RM 1.3 00946 * ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 12:14:25 -0500 (EST) From: bickham at msc.cornell.edu Subject: A question for the cider gurus I've never judged or entered a cider and am having problems categorizing a potential entry for the AHA competition. It's a sparkling cider that was made from 100% fresh-pressed cider and fermented with a Belgian yeast. The original gravity was 1.070 (yes, and no adjuncts were added), final gravity was ~1.000, and the alcohol content is ~9% v/v. This is too alcoholic for a normal sparkling cider, but according to the guidelines, New England ciders must be fermented with wild or wine yeasts. Any suggestions, or should I keep it for myself? TIA, Scott - -- ======================================================================== Scott Bickham bickham at msc.cornell.edu ========================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 95 13:08:47 EST From: chuck at synchro.com (Chuck Cox) Subject: I'm in control now! I now have possession of the official BJCP database. This means that I have all the real power in the program now. So, it is time to announce my bloodless coup. Announcing the formation of Chuck's Beer Judge Program (CBJP). Tired of this nonsense about representation and independence? Sick of difficult, time-consuming exams? Weary of the slow accumulation of experience points? Bored of advisors? Looking for a program based on benign dictatorship and questionable accounting practices? The CBJP structure is as simple as it is elegant. All existing BJCP judges are now CBJP judges at their current BJCP rank. All future ranks promotions are based on the following scale: Recognized $25 Certified $50 National $100 Master $200 (free pin) Grand Master $400 (free silly hat) Ultra Master $800 (free large silly hat) That's it! All you have to do to progress through the ranks is send me cash in the above amounts. Note that you can't skip a rank payment, so if you want to go from Recognized to Master, you must pay $350 ($50 + $100 + $200). CBJP is of course non-profit as all revenues will be used to send its charismatic founder (me!) on vital fact-finding tours of the far corners of the earth, especially Amsterdam. - -- Chuck "Call me Charlie" Cox SynchroSystems / Riverside Garage & Brewery - Cambridge, Mass. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 13:37:29 -0500 From: ALKinchen at aol.com Subject: Call for code-of-conduct On March 5 John Isenhour called for a code-of-ethics for the BJCP. This thread hasn't been picked up, but I agree that this is a real problem. Having to defend judges and judging is not pleasant and something that should not be necessary. The BJCC should make it clear that public arrogance, rudeness,and personal attacks are not acceptable behavior between judges, between judges of different "rank", between judges and non-judges, nor is the inclusion of inappropriate comments on score sheets. While the BJCP is in a state flux at the moment, the program is mature enough that this issue can and should be addressed. Al Kinchen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 23:18:52 GMT From: neill.thaggard at holonet.lagerhead.com (Neill Thaggard) Subject: Subscribe SUBSCRIBE neill_thaggard at lagerhead.com ------------------------------ End of JudgeNet Digest ************************