From synchro!judge-request at uu6.psi.com Sat Jun 11 06:39:45 1994 Received: from uu6.psi.com by goodman.itn.med.umich.edu with SMTP id AA12425 (5.65b/IDA-1.4.3 for spencer at hendrix.itn.med.umich.edu); Sat, 11 Jun 94 06:39:40 -0400 Received: from synchro.UUCP by uu6.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA11941 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 94 06:17:26 -0400 Received: by synchro.com (smail2.5) id AA16311; 11 Jun 94 05:28:03 EDT (Sat) Reply-To: judge at synchro.com (JudgeNet) Errors-To: judge-error at synchro.com Precedence: bulk Message-Id: <9406110528.AA16311 at synchro.com> From: judge-request at synchro.com (JudgeNet Administrator) To: judge-recipients at synchro.com (JudgeNet Recipients) Subject: JudgeNet Digest #783 (Jun 11, 1994) Date: 11 Jun 94 05:28:03 EDT (Sat) JudgeNet Digest #783 Sat 11 Jun 1994 THE BEER JUDGE DIGEST Chuck Cox , publisher Michael Hall , archive administrator digest submissions to judge at synchro.com administrative requests to judge-request at synchro.com send rank updates to the administrative address messages sent to the wrong address will be ignored FTP archive information in /pub/judge/README on cygnus.ta52.lanl.gov Published by SynchroSystems and the Riverside Garage & Brewery Contents: Judging Quality, etc. (John DeCarlo x7116 ) Re: Ed's judging quality comments (Jay Hersh) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 10 Jun 94 08:07:44 EST From: John DeCarlo x7116 Subject: Judging Quality, etc. One particularly helpful procedure I found the last time I judged was to have the stewards scan through the judging sheets. You can even let him/her do it after each beer is judged. I found myself doing some bad things (forgetting to fill in all the scores, leaving some things blank, etc.) late in the judging. The steward pointed this out to me in time for me to fix it. OTOH, if your steward is drinking as much or more than you are, this might not help as much . I know stewards have a tough job and get little credit and not all of them are interested in judging, but getting them involved in a serious manner (besides just "get me more beer") can benefit both sides. John DeCarlo, MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA--My views are my own Fidonet: 1:109/131 Internet: jdecarlo at mitre.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 11:54:12 EDT From: Jay Hersh Subject: Re: Ed's judging quality comments >I have my own horrible example to share, since I have the floor. >I sent the exact same beer to two competitions recently. >At one, a National judge (who has an extremely low reputation in >the eyes of our local club members) scored it at 19, with the novice >who assisted him concurring with a 20. The same beer, judgesd a few >days later in another city, scored in the mid-30s consistently across >4 judges, who had nothing but good things to say about it. I got you beat here Ed. Last year a certain judge in our region of less than sterling caliber had the opportunity to judge some of my beers. In December 1992 he gave a 25 to a beer which won our club pilsener urquell clone competition, and which took second place in another competition in Vermont in April of 1993 (When it was substantially older). At the same April 1993 competition this judge gave a 19 to a dunkle which proved to be the first prize winner for the AHA National competition that same year. Needless to say said person's reputation is not very good in the Northeast lately. JaH ------------------------------ End of JudgeNet Digest ************************