From synchro!judge-request at uu6.psi.com Tue Feb 22 08:41:42 1994 Received: from uu6.psi.com by goodman.itn.med.umich.edu with SMTP id AA16513 (5.65b/IDA-1.4.3 for spencer at hendrix.itn.med.umich.edu); Tue, 22 Feb 94 08:41:37 -0500 Received: from synchro.UUCP by uu6.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA15217 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 94 05:48:40 -0500 Received: by synchro.com (smail2.5) id AA10409; 22 Feb 94 05:11:47 EST (Tue) Reply-To: judge at synchro.com (JudgeNet) Errors-To: judge-request at synchro.com Precedence: bulk Message-Id: <9402220511.AA10409 at synchro.com> From: judge-request at synchro.com (JudgeNet Administrator) To: judge-recipients at synchro.com (JudgeNet Recipients) Subject: JudgeNet Digest #698 (Feb 22, 1994) Date: 22 Feb 94 05:11:47 EST (Tue) JudgeNet Digest #698 Tue 22 Feb 1994 THE BEER JUDGE DIGEST Chuck Cox , digest administrator Michael Hall , archive administrator digest submissions to judge at synchro.com administrative requests to judge-request at synchro.com send rank updates to the administrative address messages sent to the wrong address will be ignored FTP archive information in /pub/judge/README on cygnus.ta52.lanl.gov Sponsored by SynchroSystems and the Riverside Garage & Brewery Contents: BJCP Exam (STROUD) administrative requests (Chuck Cox) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 21 Feb 1994 07:50:08 -0500 (EST) From: STROUD%GAIA at leia.polaroid.com Subject: BJCP Exam There are no questions on the BJCP exam regarding cider, mead, or sake. Steve Stroud Assoc. Director, BJCP ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Feb 94 14:32:58 EST From: chuck at synchro.com (Chuck Cox) Subject: administrative requests Recently a number of administrative requests have been posted to some of the digests I publish. According to discussions in the list-managers digest, this is an increasingly widespread problem on the Internet. It seems that many online services, universities and corporations are unleashing new users onto the net with far less education than in the past (which was pretty pathetic to begin with). The net result is not only an exponentially increasing workload for administrators, but also an increase in clueless postings. I have no problem with the increasing workload, and welcome all considerate, informed subscribers. In order to reduce the administrative backlog, I am in the process of completely automating the subscribe/cancel/change process. However, I have no time to hold hands with every clueless newbie who won't follow instructions. I try to remove offending messages from the digest, but sometimes the digest is sent before I have a chance to edit it. I could send them manually, but that would only increase my workload and interfere with the flow of legitimate discussions. If you feel this is a harsh attitude, please feel free to contact the offenders directly and coach them on your own time. It is easy to blame the newbies, but really the fault lies with their system administrators who expect us volunteer service providers to educate their users for them. If you are a sysadmin, please provide your users with one of the many introductory texts before unleashing them onto the Internet. If you tell a friend or colleague about a mailing list, please give them the administrative address, not the main address. As always, messages sent to the wrong address will be ignored. When I have the time and inclination, I will send the following message to the clueless: ========================================================================= Howdy- You recently sent an administrative request to an entire mailing list. As you might imagine, the hundreds of subscribers to the list were not interested in reading your administrative message. Most Internet mailing lists, including those published here at SynchroSystems, use the listname-request at sitename address format for handling administrative messages such as subscription or cancellation requests. For instance, if the main address of a mailing list were newbies at clueless.com, the correct address for administrative messages would be newbies-request at clueless.com. Since most sites, including SynchroSystems, use some degree of automation in their list administration, requests sent the main address are generally ignored. In order to process your request, please resend it to the correct address. Instructions for sending administrative requests are included in the header of all digests published at SynchroSystems. The current administrative addresses at SynchroSystems are: embed-request at synchro.com (Embedded Systems Engineering Digest Admin) judge-request at synchro.com (Beer Judge Digest Admin) libeerty-request at synchro.com (Libertarian Beer Digest Admin) Most free services on the Internet are provided by volunteers who don't have the time to educate new users, please try to be informed and considerate when using these services. There are a variety of introductory texts available for new Internet users, please contact your system administrator for a copy of one, it will help you avoid common mistakes as you learn to navigate the information highway. - -- Chuck Cox SynchroSystems / Riverside Garage & Brewery - Cambridge, Mass. ------------------------------ End of JudgeNet Digest ************************