From synchro!judge-request at uu6.psi.com Thu Feb 17 06:36:07 1994 Received: from uu6.psi.com by goodman.itn.med.umich.edu with SMTP id AA18587 (5.65b/IDA-1.4.3 for spencer at hendrix.itn.med.umich.edu); Thu, 17 Feb 94 06:36:03 -0500 Received: from synchro.UUCP by uu6.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA25231 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 94 05:47:10 -0500 Received: by synchro.com (smail2.5) id AA17760; 17 Feb 94 05:11:42 EST (Thu) Reply-To: judge at synchro.com (JudgeNet) Errors-To: judge-request at synchro.com Precedence: bulk Message-Id: <9402170511.AA17760 at synchro.com> From: judge-request at synchro.com (JudgeNet Administrator) To: judge-recipients at synchro.com (JudgeNet Recipients) Subject: JudgeNet Digest #694 (Feb 17, 1994) Date: 17 Feb 94 05:11:42 EST (Thu) JudgeNet Digest #694 Thu 17 Feb 1994 THE BEER JUDGE DIGEST Chuck Cox , digest administrator Michael Hall , archive administrator DIGEST SUBMISSIONS ONLY to judge at synchro.com ALL ADMINISTRATIVE REQUESTS to judge-request at synchro.com Send rank updates to the administrative address FTP archive information in /pub/judge/README on cygnus.ta52.lanl.gov Sponsored by SynchroSystems and the Riverside Garage & Brewery Contents: Re: Good Judging (Jay Hersh) Steve Black's Comments ("Norman Dickenson") ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 11:16:21 EST From: Jay Hersh Subject: Re: Good Judging John's comments bring up the question of the role of the judge. Is the judge there to provide feedback or to also be a teacher?? My opinion is to provide feedback. If I tell someone their beer has a chill haze I don't feel i need ot explain all the sources of chill haze. There are plenty of places to go to find information about the sources of flavor defects and other such defects. George Fix's fine book, Greg Noonan's, Charlie P's, etc..., etc... As Jeff indicates the judging task is time consuming enough that the judge shouldn't also have to tutor the brewer. While I understand that many people lack a place to turn to for knowledgeable feedback of what flavor components are in their beer and what the defects in it are (and that is the legitimate role of the judge), to expect the judge to provide minute details of the sources and means to correct these problems is pushing the limits. JaH ------------------------------ Date: 16 Feb 1994 08:53:00 -0500 From: "Norman Dickenson" Subject: Steve Black's Comments Subject: Time:8:14 AM OFFICE MEMO Steve Black's Comments Date:2/16/94 HEAR, HEAR!!!!! A GRAIN OF TRUTH AMIDST THE BABBLE. Norman Dickenson *NATIONAL* Judge(tm)#176##197##195# and Grand Subliminal Tongue Tied Poobah OPINION: A belief stronger than impression and less strong than positive knowledge. OPINIONATED: Unduly adhering to one's own opinion or to preconceived notions ------------------------------ End of JudgeNet Digest ************************