From JudgeNet	Tue Nov 9 04:27:36 1993
From: malodah at pbgueuze.scrm2700.PacBell.COM (Martin Lodahl)
Subject: Got Me!

I got a real chuckle out of this yesterday, so I thought I'd pass it
along.

I was judging the Specialty class in the California State Homebrew
Competition, put on by the San Andreas Malts.  This is always a
very well-run competition, and this year was no exception with
the legendary Russ Wigglesworth at the helm.  There was a calibration
beer, scored like the rest of the flight, and for most panels
it was in the style that was being judged.  For us, it was a Wit.

Veteran left-coast clubs prefer a 20-point scale, and the other
three judges on the panel scored it in the high teens, while I gave
it a ten.  I didn't think it was a bad beer, but I did think it was
a lousy Wit.  I made one a few months back that was just as bad.  In
the spirited discussion that followed, the others shaved a few points 
off the score, but I still felt the total was too high.

When the judging was done, Russ came over to our table and asked,
"What did you think of that calibration beer?"  When I launched
into a recital of its sins, Russ laughed and said, "That was
_your_beer!_"  Ooof!!  I'd forgotten that I gave him some ...

Oh well, at least I knocked it for the same reasons, whether I
knew it was mine or not.

	- Martin

= Martin Lodahl		Systems Analyst, Capacity Planning, Pacific*Bell =
= malodah at pacbell.com      Sacramento, CA USA	            916.972.4821 =
=    If it's good for ancient Druids runnin' nekkid through the wuids,   =
=  Drinkin' strange fermented fluids, it's good enough for me!  (Unk.)   =

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From JudgeNet	Sat Nov 20 05:10:58 1993
From: trl at photos.wustl.edu (Tom Leith MIR/ERL 362-6965)
Subject: Pilsners & Munich Helles Beers

Hi --

I'm on the hook for rounding up examples of Pilsners & Munich Helles beers 
for my group's next BJCP tutorial-tasting.  I've looked in Jackson's pocket 
guide for help, but I'm coming up a little short, and I'm hoping for some 
net.help.  I need brand names, and hopefully the importer's name for as many 
examples as I can get.

If I can't come up with enough examples in Pils and Munich Helles, I may want 
to expand the list to include bocks in varying strengths.  So names of fine 
examples in this space will be appreciated as well.

Many thanks --

	t
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